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Hi narius, thank you for sharing so much information here. I am currently  an research fellow  in an university in Uk on a two- year contract. I am wondering if I leave the university to stay a few years in industrial labs such as the HP labs or some national labs , do I still have the big chance to go back the academia? Because my ultimate goal is to go back HK's universities following the path like associate professor ->professor


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Sorry for stepping into your territory ( I mean this particular thread), Dr Narius.
Dr Sunshine, I'd like to honestly tell you that if you really want to be an Asso Prof in HK, you should first of all gain adequate teaching, research and admin experience from an academic post at the level of lecturer (equivalent to assistant prof in HK) or above in a UK uni. In addition, you should build up your excellent track record of publication in top journals.
Having said that, I do feel HK is not a good place for doing advanced research because of her lacking in sufficient research funding and government support.
As you're a RF in the UK now, I think it'd be better for you to get your papers published, and apply for a lecturer post in a UK uni. I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy being an academic here.  
This is just my two cents drawing from my personal experience in HK and the UK.

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原帖由 sunshine_chan 於 2010-5-8 01:16 AM 發表

Hi narius, thank you for sharing so much information here. I amcurrently  an research fellow  in an university in Uk on a two- yearcontract. I am wondering if I leave the university to stay a few yearsin industrial labs such as the HP labs or some national labs , do Istill have the big chance to go back the academia? Because my ultimategoal is to go back HK's universities following the path like associateprofessor ->professor
It boils down to the SAME THING .. your research track record. You have to make sure that wherever you go, the environment will allow you to develop and publish high quality research. Take HP Labs as an example. We do publish but researchers are NOT encouraged for some lines of research (like abstract math that will never be used in a million years). So there is a bigger need to align your research goals with the organizations. The alignment (or lack of) will seriously impact your publications.






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Many thanks to uker and narius!





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原帖由 sunshine_chan 於 2010-5-8 01:16 AM 發表

Hi narius, thank you for sharing so much information here. I am currently  an research fellow  in an university in Uk on a two- year contract. I am wondering if I leave the university to stay a few years in industrial labs such as the HP labs or some national labs , do I still have the big chance to go back the academia? Because my ultimate goal is to go back HK's universities following the path like associate professor ->professor
It boils down to your research track record. Let me use HP Labs as the example, since i am intimately familiar with it. Many of my colleagues, who regularly publish (and probably have better research records than an average professors) would have no problem getting an academic job (in general, if you talk about HK, you have to consider the specific circumstances). The only disadvantage we face is the lack of teaching experience but usually it will not be a show stopper.

At the same time, there are also colleagues who are more in the development side and have a poor publication record (even when they are doing great internally) and they will never be able to find a decent academic post.

So the point is what position you held is a lot LESS important than your track record.






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Glad to know that this thread is active again.

I am not a PHD though I had seen someone print PolytechnicHigher Dipoma in short form in their name card.

I may share some of my experience with working with PHDs, both my ex-boss, peers and sub-ordinates in HK.

Thanks for listening.






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It is heard that most of the psit grad seat are given to mainland students who are given scholarship or RS. Anyone can give more details on this?






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原帖由 野雞大 於 2011-7-4 09:58 AM 發表

It is heard that most of the psit grad seat are given to mainland students who are given scholarship or RS. Anyone can give more details on this?
In which country and in which area?



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I am in HK. What I heard that there is interview in SZ from HKU.
It thus also happen to US where most of the phd students are not US citizen...



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I don't think nationality is an issue.

In the US and in HK, everyone that meets the MINIMUM requirements of graduate school admission can apply for the MPhil / PhD programs. However, the schools would of course pick the best out of all applicants to give an offer.



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Yes, nationality is not a problem. However, there something behind. It is heard that there are less and less local student admitted ( both HK and US) to graduate school. Is the outsiders better( from mainland China) or fewer local students applied for higher degree?

The outstanding students from developed country seems not so keen in getting a higher degree?







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原帖由 野雞大 於 2011-7-7 10:11 AM 發表

Yes, nationality is not a problem. However, there something behind. It is heard that there are less and less local student admitted ( both HK and US) to graduate school. Is the outsiders better( from  ...
let me tell you the truth.
phd= cheap labor, high-quality immigrants and future economic motivators for developed countries.

Still, the local students have a marginal advantage over the oversea students when applying the phd programs, depending on the policy adopted by the schools. Hence, the large number of oversea students means large number of oversea applicants.



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