LATITUDEFEVER 2011-2-20 21:59
[quote]原帖由 [i]dl2011[/i] 於 2011-2-20 02:59 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280344364&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
請問有冇鄰居可以總結吓，現在收樓到底有乜禮物？唔該！
[img]http://i1.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg[/img] [/quote]
除咗禮物, 除咗美觀之外, 有冇人諗諗實用面積問題.
小弟未收樓(1085), 但今日上去睇過, 感覺很差, 很搵笨. 相比現在住的單位(1119), 六年樓, 感覺只有現時單位的約七成面積, 大家都有豪華會所.
好差!好差!好差!
[[i] 本帖最後由 LATITUDEFEVER 於 2011-2-20 10:01 PM 編輯 [/i]]
yuekwongwan 2011-2-20 22:10
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 09:59 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280376662&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
除咗禮物, 除咗美觀之外, 有冇人諗諗實用面積問題.
小弟未收樓(1085), 但今日上去睇過, 感覺很差, 很搵笨. 相比現在住的單位(1119), 六年樓, 感覺只有現時單位的約七成面積, 大家都有豪華會所.
好差 ... [/quote]
近幾年話明係發水樓，梗係冇咁實用。樓盤傳真都有講。
dl2011 2011-2-20 22:17
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 09:59 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280376662&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
除咗禮物, 除咗美觀之外, 有冇人諗諗實用面積問題.
小弟未收樓(1085), 但今日上去睇過, 感覺很差, 很搵笨. 相比現在住的單位(1119), 六年樓, 感覺只有現時單位的約七成面積, 大家都有豪華會所.
好差 ... [/quote]
Expected!
700 sq. ft. @the_Latitude is similar to 550 sq. ft. @Park_Central:smile_39: (although they all claimed to be 80% usage)
uwantaccount 2011-2-20 22:27
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 09:59 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280376662&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
除咗禮物, 除咗美觀之外, 有冇人諗諗實用面積問題.
小弟未收樓(1085), 但今日上去睇過, 感覺很差, 很搵笨. 相比現在住的單位(1119), 六年樓, 感覺只有現時單位的約七成面積, 大家都有豪華會所.
好差 ... [/quote]
I actually don't mind paying a bit more for the luxury club house, lobby and lift :loveliness:
And I object government in limiting the GFA inflation at 10%. I think, GFA inflation limit to be applied to different projects which to be specified during land auction. For certain type of projects, buyers can choose to sacrifice some of their marketable GFA for club house / other living standard lifting facilities.
Btw, latitude has balcony, 550sqf type park central doesnt hv balcony? I visited one 5xx sqf park central, the dining room and master room are smaller than our 700sqf unit.
LATITUDEFEVER 2011-2-20 22:29
[quote]原帖由 [i]dl2011[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:17 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280378830&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Expected!
700 sq. ft. @the_Latitude is similar to 550 sq. ft. @Park_Central:smile_39: (although they all claimed to be 80% usage) [/quote]
Thanks for your comment. I completely understand the 70% ratio BUT this is NOT what I am saying. What I am saying is, the flat I am living with 1119, I feel like 800 (and this is completely what is the standard of HK market is). BUT, for The Latitude, I feel like the size is only 70% of 800 only and this really disappoints me.
Actually, I am not only disappointed, but I actually feel VERY sad. I feel kind of, I am not willing to move it.
Imagine, if a buyer who has 10m to buy a flat with similar gross size but one is actually 30% smaller (carpeted area) in compared to the other, if you are that buyer (investor), which one would you like to buy.
soholeung 2011-2-20 22:42
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:29 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280380223&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Thanks for your comment. I completely understand the 70% ratio BUT this is NOT what I am saying. What I am saying is, the flat I am living with 1119, I feel like 800 (and this is completely what ... [/quote]
Latitudefever兄，
很明白你現時的心情，要大屋搬細屋.........
但慶幸的是這樓價還在上調，如果真的唔想要，
你或可以選擇放了它來賺回一筆吧！
但建議你考慮多些時間，希望你會接受它啦。
garho 2011-2-20 22:54
I also think so.... Everyone (if change house) in HK will face similar problems. We still cannot directly compare the flat with Tai Ko Shing, Heng Fa Chuen, etc...
What I think IF the flat is "squared" enough with enough "usable" spaces, and you can have newer environment, it is already good. Living in a flat for 20-30 years is boring.... probably old utilities, aging neighbours, maintainence fee, etc...
Btw, you can also consider rent the flat....
rich1 2011-2-20 22:55
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 22:29 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280380223&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Thanks for your comment. I completely understand the 70% ratio BUT this is NOT what I am saying. What I am saying is, the flat I am living with 1119, I feel like 800 (and this is completely what ... [/quote]
I completely understand your feeling, my place is similar size of yours. After I did some measurement on the floor plan, I realized my new flat is not much larger than my current 800 sq ft flat. Imagine I have a few young kids who need more space to move around, I have to compromise all the furniture. I even thinking renting a storage space nearby. Well we did look around in KLN for flat, but finally we picked Latitude, and I expected the size won't be too effective. The worst part is expensive carpark, buying 1 to 1.2 mil and rental $3,500. Take it easy.....
dl2011 2011-2-20 22:55
[quote]原帖由 [i]uwantaccount[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:27 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280379948&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I actually don't mind paying a bit more for the luxury club house, lobby and lift :loveliness:
And I object government in limiting the GFA inflation at 10%. I think, GFA inflation limit to be ap ... [/quote]
Yes you are right. Park Central (PC) has no balcony and smaller corridor area. That's why I said the usable area of PC (5XX) is similar to the Lat (6XX to 7XX). I can say that it is no significant increase (of course determined by feeling) in living space. However, I do enjoy a balcony for comfort living (hope so) and the future development (if the dream comes true). I finally bought it.
AS for the clubhouse, I think it is too luxury. Some of the facilities are meaningless to me, e.g. dining room (around $4500 booking fee), boxing, AV room ... etc. Also, some of the common activities such as BBQ ($300) is a bit crazy.
dl2011 2011-2-20 23:01
[quote]原帖由 [i]rich1[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:55 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280383241&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I completely understand your feeling, my place is similar size of yours. After I did some measurement on the floor plan, I realized my new flat is not much larger than my current 800 sq ft flat. Ima ... [/quote]
Agree!
That's why I plan to install less furniture to enhance the spatial feel. Try to live a simple but quality life. Less stuff, more space.
mriacle129keung 2011-2-20 23:05
小弟係路人甲,想問吓宜家入咗伙, 會唔會有現樓既示範單位參觀呢?
uwantaccount 2011-2-20 23:19
[quote]原帖由 [i]dl2011[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:55 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280383277&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Yes you are right. Park Central (PC) has no balcony and smaller corridor area. That's why I said the usable area of PC (5XX) is similar to the Lat (6XX to 7XX). I can say that it is no significant ... [/quote]
yeh.. but they are catered for the richie mainlanders who bot the flat at >10k psf :)
Garden_Latitude 2011-2-20 23:28
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 21:59 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280376662&ptid=13903976][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
除咗禮物, 除咗美觀之外, 有冇人諗諗實用面積問題.
小弟未收樓(1085), 但今日上去睇過, 感覺很差, 很搵笨. 相比現在住的單位(1119), 六年樓, 感覺只有現時單位的約七成面積, 大家都有豪華會所.
好差 ... [/quote]
6年樓甘正，師兄可否告之是那個屋苑？等我都考慮下先.
[url=http://m.discuss.com.hk][img=100,23]http://i1.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg[/img][/url]
Enviro200H 2011-2-20 23:33
Hi,
Here are the photos of Latitude Kitchen.....
[url]http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Latitude%20Kitchen/[/url]
請問有沒有鄰居打算把煤氣爐改為嵌入式的電磁爐(因我覺得煤氣費是較為昂貴:smile_39: )? 大家有何意見呢? 如果只拆走其中一個煤氣爐而換上電磁爐又是否可行呢?
aa1047 2011-2-20 23:46
[quote]原帖由 [i]mriacle129keung[/i] 於 2011-2-20 11:05 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280384396&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
小弟係路人甲,想問吓宜家入咗伙, 會唔會有現樓既示範單位參觀呢? [/quote]
新鴻基近年好少開現樓ga
一開現樓就交畀agent獨家代理預約參觀
而家Yoho Midtown 現樓都係睇新元朗中心示範單位.....
skinny_winnie 2011-2-20 23:57
Actually, I just figure out the following law of physics in Hong Kong:
We are paying "twice the price"and getting "half the space" every few years. And the trend is accelerating.
In most economies, "Moore's Law" means electronic processing power is increasing exponentially while the real estate of its hardware is shrinking exponentially. A measurement of real productivity gain.
In Hong Kong, the same law is pronounced locally as the "More's Law" to the developers. It means their profits are doubling every few years while the space they give their buyers are shrinking rapidly. It is a measure of how fast we are lining the pockets of the developers with our hard earned money.
We paid the highest price in the world for each square foot. But sadly, our square foot turns out to be much smaller than the square foot others paid in other countries.
Call this "creative accounting" in space if you may. But why are we always left holding the bags? Why such a rigged system can be tolerated by so many for so long?
"But space is neither created or destroyed, so what went wrong?" A physics student once asked.
"Why the developers here are laughing all them way to the bank?" A Economic 101 student once asked.
"And why are we are working our assess off to pay for an incredible shrinking space?" A working man holding 3 jobs just to make ends meet once asked.
"Ever wonder why the top 10 businesses in Hong Kong are mostly real estate companies, while in all other economies they are the industrialists and manufacturers instead?" An overseas friend of mine once asked.
"The whole system sucks big time here", a voice from high above shouted, "and you all have been suckers slaving for the developers for too long"
Sorry for the long-winded complaint, my dear neighbors. But I too suffer badly from the latest "space shock" sickness of new flats. :smile_22:
[[i] 本帖最後由 skinny_winnie 於 2011-2-21 12:08 AM 編輯 [/i]]
rich1 2011-2-21 00:08
[quote]原帖由 [i]skinny_winnie[/i] 於 2011-2-20 23:57 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280390600&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Actually, I just figure out the following law of physics in Hong Kong:
We are paying "twice the price"and getting "half the space" every few years. And the trend is accelerating.
In most econom ... [/quote]Agree with your thoughts. We do have options, ie move out of HK. After evaluated our own situation, we decided to hang-in here for a bit longer. As per your Law of Phyiscs, I just want to strike a balance.
Enviro200H 2011-2-21 00:11
[quote]原帖由 [i]Enviro200H[/i] 於 2011-2-20 06:05 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280358488&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Soho 兄,
無問題, 會進行實地觀察, 今晚再話你知:smile_38: [/quote]
[size=10pt][font=Times New Roman]Soho [/font][/size][font=新細明體][size=10pt]兄[/size][/font][size=10pt][font=Times New Roman],[/font][/size]
[size=10pt][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size]
[font=新細明體][size=10pt]恐怕如果你真的要放[/size][/font]22” LCD TV [font=新細明體][size=10pt]會有相當的難度[/size][/font]…… :L
詳細情況可參考附上的相片吧 :smile_53:
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3315.jpg]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3315.jpg[/url]
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3316.jpg]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3316.jpg[/url]
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3317.jpg]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3317.jpg[/url]
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3318.jpg]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3318.jpg[/url]
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3319.jpg][color=#000000]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN3319.jpg[/color][/url]
soholeung 2011-2-21 01:42
[quote]原帖由 [i]Enviro200H[/i] 於 2011-2-21 12:11 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280391940&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Soho 兄,
恐怕如果你真的要放22” LCD TV 會有相當的難度…… :L
詳細情況可參考附上的相片吧 :smile_53:
[url=http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN33]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n525/Enviro200H/Washroom%20for%20SOHO/DSCN33[/url] ... [/quote]
Enviro兄，
一直在等你的答案呢！現在明白多了，
多謝你提供了非常有用的數據給我，
原來個廁所真的地方有限...........:')
看來想嘆吓都幾難。
伸紅機 2011-2-21 07:38
今天終於來到啦, 收樓了, 雖然細D, 但勁豪和有會所商場, 譽港灣我地來啦.......:smile_30: :smile_30: :smile_30:
[[i] 本帖最後由 伸紅機 於 2011-2-21 07:42 AM 編輯 [/i]]
Oakfield 2011-2-21 08:17
ETLTool 兄
我都有參加馬拉松. 今年的天氣很好, 涼涼地, 很適合長跑, 跑得很舒服.
soholeung 2011-2-21 08:38
[quote]原帖由 [i]伸紅機[/i] 於 2011-2-21 07:38 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280405821&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
今天終於來到啦, 收樓了, 雖然細D, 但勁豪和有會所商場, 譽港灣我地來啦.......:smile_30: :smile_30: :smile_30: [/quote]
恭喜伸兄收樓成功！
未來伸太睇咗未？有甚麼評價嗎？
Oakfield 2011-2-21 09:00
[quote]原帖由 [i]LATITUDEFEVER[/i] 於 2011-2-20 10:29 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280380223&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Thanks for your comment. I completely understand the 70% ratio BUT this is NOT what I am saying. What I am saying is, the flat I am living with 1119, I feel like 800 (and this is completely what ... [/quote]
LATITUDEFEVER 兄
心有同感. 十分明白你的感受. 買完樓後, 當我嘗試把售褸書的面積/圖積粗略與現在住緊的地方作一比較, 發現實用情況相差頗遠. 現住的地方實用率80%, 新買的單位據知實用率應該有78%. 雖然新樓比現住的大少許(主要多了個士多房及露台), 但房間及客廳可以放傢俬的地方卻似乎細得多. 所有在圖則上模擬的現有傢俬呎寸都不能全數放回新屋. 才意識到近年發水樓是什麼一回事. 我雖然仍未收樓, 也要有足夠心理準備, 不然入屋後的一刻會大失所望.
p.s. 會所的各項收費比現住的會所亦貴很多.
Oakfield 2011-2-21 09:05
[quote]原帖由 [i]Garden_Latitude[/i] 於 2011-2-20 12:43 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280306806&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Thanks Soho Suk and Helenlaiwf. x 3
Enviro200H 2011-2-21 09:31
同意大家講法。不單只實用率比以前少，而且牆又厚，橫樑又多，造櫃都有難度。
[url=http://m.discuss.com.hk][img=100,23]http://i1.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg[/img][/url]
Latitude8AH 2011-2-21 09:52
[quote]原帖由 [i]Enviro200H[/i] 於 21/2/2011 09:31 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=280408635&ptid=13903976][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
同意大家講法。不單只實用率比以前少，而且牆又厚，橫樑又多，造櫃都有難度。
[img]http://i1.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg[/img] [/quote]
各位業主~ 發水樓問題其實都係無能既HK政府做成, 已經係無法改變既事實,SHK已經算有D人性架喇.如果現時想住新樓的話就要忍受下:L .
Enviro200H, 你好呀, 請問你係唔係G單位呢? Thanks:smile_46:
chakchoi 2011-2-21 10:02
仲未收到樓.....
買前都參考左幾大發展商既樓盤
睇左差唔多既SHK星悅居發現間房真係細得可憐 相比隔黎既泓景臺細好多好多
原本無打算入譽港 但別一半喜歡新樓無辦法
所以都預左間房會比星悅居細更多更多 因為近期發水發得更厲害
睇左樓盤傳真發現間房實用破左紀錄得5成9 所以都有心理準備會發到得返隻窗咁大
唉真係令人擔心
Tenchiii
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risky888 2011-2-21 10:21
恭喜伸兄收樓成功！ x 2
helenlaiwf 2011-2-21 10:43
各位街坊
GOOD MORNING!!!!