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siudom 2011-5-24 01:44 PM

CIFI & CHFI

想問大家,點 compare 呢兩個 certification 呢?

CIFI:  http://www.ictcouncil.org/content/category/5/32/38/
CHFI:  http://www.eccouncil.org/certification/computer_hacking_forensic_investigator.aspx

1.  考左 pass 左後,使唔使好似 CISSP 咁要不斷囉 CPE maintain 住個 certification?
2.  CHFI 使唔使好似考 Oracle OCP 咁,一定要 at least take 左佢地一個 course?

Thanks.

Rallying.Cry 2011-5-24 11:58 PM

ICT Council..... 一間2年無update過website既機構, 你想考佢D cert?

我prefer chfi

siudom 2011-5-25 01:16 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Rallying.Cry[/i] 於 2011-5-24 11:58 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=290198231&ptid=14493031][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ICT Council..... 一間2年無update過website既機構, 你想考佢D cert?

我prefer chfi [/quote]

不過我睇過 EC Council 既 website...  留意佢既 certification path.  佢好似一定要上佢
D 堂 (好似 Oracle OCP 咁,唔可以齋考試 pass 就得,一定要 at least take 佢一個
course).  

其實我本身都想上一個正常既 course.  不過,而家香港好似再冇地方 offer CHFI 既 course.
去返 EC-Council 買佢地既 Live courses (distant learning), 感覺唔 secure.
CIFI... 起碼理工大學有 offer 到 course...

Rallying.Cry 2011-5-25 01:46 PM

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不過我睇過 EC Council 既 website...  留意佢既 certification path.  佢好似一定要上佢
D 堂 (好似 Oracle OCP 咁,唔可以齋考試 pass 就得,一定要 at least take 佢一個
course).  

其實我本身都想上一個正常既 course.  不過,而家香港好似再冇地方 offer CHFI 既 course.
去返 EC-Council 買佢地既 Live courses (distant learning), 感覺唔 secure.
CIFI... 起碼理工大學有 offer 到 course... [/quote]

你想讀cifi都係因為poly有offer o者係咪?

其實正確d講, 唔係poly offer, 而係swp offer. swp同poly既關係, 你可以自己搵下

至於cifi, 係 "international ict council" 既cert, 不過呢間iictc根本就係陀地公司, 點同ec-council呢d美國認證機構比?

名牌效應, 你應該明白掛??

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Rallying.Cry 2011-5-25 01:55 PM

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你想讀cifi都係因為poly有offer o者係咪?

其實正確d講, 唔係poly offer, 而係swp offer. swp同poly既關係, 你可以自己搵下

至於cifi, 係 "international ict council" 既cert, 不過呢間iictc根本就係陀地公 ... [/quote]

仲有係下面呢幅圖, 完全露晒餡, cifi拎出去比鬼佬睇, 肯定無人識*, 佢地居然夠膽將cifi放係頂尖, 騎住cisa同cissp???

笑死朕

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* 講清楚先, 我講緊既係呢間iictc既cifi, 因為另外有一間iisfa都有cifi cert, 唔好搞錯

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siudom 2011-5-25 02:47 PM

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仲有係下面呢幅圖, 完全露晒餡, cifi拎出去比鬼佬睇, 肯定無人識*, 佢地居然夠膽將cifi放係頂尖, 騎住cisa同cissp???

笑死朕

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* 講清 ... [/quote]

Thanks.  呢張相真係有點...  -_-!!!
(我本身都係 CISSP)...

不過我擔心既問題係...  要囉到 CHFI 張 cert, 除左 pass 張 exam 之外,仲要証明 take 過佢地 offer 既
course.  頭先我再搵過資料,好似香港黎講只有 "Informatics" 有 offer 到 CHFI 既 course (不過我都
唔太 sure, 已經唔知仲係唔係 EC-Council approve 既 training centre).  即係,如果冇認可既
course, 就算考試 100 分都冇用。我仲有 search 話,有外國人都話,佢果時冇上堂,不過向 EC Council
買左 self-study 既 course material 讀。考左 pass 左後,EC Council 都一樣冇俾 cert 佢...
佢最後同 EC Council 嘈左好耐 (eg. 點解你又 offer training kit 呢?), EC Council 先安排俾返張
cert 佢...

所以,希望真係考過 CIFI 同 CHFI 既朋友可以俾到意見...  :)

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daemon74 2011-5-25 04:09 PM

EnCE from EnCase or certificates from SANS always possess with a higher priority in CF society.

:loveliness:

Rallying.Cry 2011-5-25 09:20 PM

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EnCE from EnCase or certificates from SANS always possess with a higher priority in CF society.

:loveliness: [/quote]
做forensic前學識EnCase,等於去外國讀大學前學識英文一樣。

至於SANS,咁講啦,Forensic真係啱啱起頭,間間認證機構都推自己張cert搶一哥位置,呢個階段,好難講邊一張好邊一張唔好。樓主話CHFI,講真我都未諗過,我只係信EC-Council個名啫,大家都明cert嘅嘢就好似大學咁,都係講名牌㗎啦。

樓主,你不妨多做功夫,由著名機構開始搵。

siudom 2011-5-25 11:19 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Rallying.Cry[/i] 於 2011-5-25 09:20 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=290291419&ptid=14493031][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

做forensic前學識EnCase,等於去外國讀大學前學識英文一樣。

至於SANS,咁講啦,Forensic真係啱啱起頭,間間認證機構都推自己張cert搶一哥位置,呢個階段,好難講邊一張好邊一張唔好。樓主話CHFI, ... [/quote]

其實我 100% 同意你既見解。初初見到 ICT-Council 既 CIFI 同埋 EC-Council 既 CHFI.  本身對呢兩個 organizations
既認識唔係咁深,所以先係呢道問。我睇過 CHFI 個 course outline, 其實佢有 cover 埋 PDA forensics, 同埋就咁
web search, 多人提 CHFI.  如果就咁睇,的確想去讀/考 CHFI 多。

不過,要考到 CHFI, 要係佢 authorized training center 讀。我其實有 email 問一位高人.  佢都有 CIFI (不過係
iisfa 果個) 同埋 CEH, CHFI.  佢都話佢印象中香港好似冇 ATC 有 CHFI course.  (不過佢都提議我 email 俾
EC Council, 而我都岩岩整左個 open ticket 俾佢地).  想講,有時就算見到名校,但係香港冇門路,一樣咁頭痕。
:(

daemon74 2011-5-25 11:27 PM

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做forensic前學識EnCase,等於去外國讀大學前學識英文一樣。

至於SANS,咁講啦,Forensic真係啱啱起頭,間間認證機構都推自己張cert搶一哥位置,呢個階段,好難講邊一張好邊一張唔好。樓主話CHFI, ... [/quote]

Not really. My SIR team heavily rely on open-source apps for onsite as well as offline analysis for more than seven years ago and EnCase or FTK is just for the reporting purpose accordingly.

For CIFI, actually, there are 2 organization issue CIFI certificate indeed - IISFA & ICT Council but i do recommend people to take a look of EnCase, AccessData or SANS GCFA if they really interest to work in the field.

daemon74 2011-5-25 11:32 PM

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其實我 100% 同意你既見解。初初見到 ICT-Council 既 CIFI 同埋 EC-Council 既 CHFI.  本身對呢兩個 organizations
既認識唔係咁深,所以先係呢道問。我睇過 CHFI 個 course outline, 其實佢有 cover 埋 PDA fo ... [/quote]

No offense but if u simply do a NSLookup of XXX .. u will find some interesting stuff .....

siudom 2011-5-26 09:42 AM

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No offense but if u simply do a NSLookup of XXX .. u will find some interesting stuff ..... [/quote]

我岩岩昅左 "XXX" 既 whois record.  我諗... 我開始明白你想指既係...
我望到個 record, 有一份好似 "遠在天邊,近在眼前" 既感覺...!!!

Thanks 各位。我的確要重新考慮...

P.S. : 我都知去考 EnCase 果個 cert 會比較 practical...  我諗,如果我份工係係
       警隊 Forensics 做的話,應該會考。如果唔係,我就算考到,都要苦惱將來既
       CPE 點囉...  :(

Rallying.Cry 2011-5-26 12:15 PM

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P.S. : 我都知去考 EnCase 果個 cert 會比較 practical...  我諗,如果我份工係係
       警隊 Forensics 做的話,應該會考。如果唔係,我就算考到,都要苦惱將來既
       CPE 點囉...  [img]http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/smilies/default/sad.gif[/img] [/quote]

順便答埋你另開一條thread, 讀呢d cert唔好抱住興趣班既心態去讀, 有CPE要求就知道唔係果d MXSE, CXNA既cert咁簡單.

除非真係打算入audit呢行, 咁CISA可以(應該話"應該")同forensic一齊讀, or慳番d錢黎/時間main住cissp就算吧啦. :loveliness:

siudom 2011-5-26 01:52 PM

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順便答埋你另開一條thread, 讀呢d cert唔好抱住興趣班既心態去讀, 有CPE要求就知道唔係果d MXSE, CXNA既cert咁簡單.

除非真係打算入audit呢行, 咁CISA可以(應該話"應該")同forensic一齊讀, or慳番d錢黎/時間m ... [/quote]

Thanks.  的確我要重新考慮過...  

我個 CISSP 都 maintain 左差不多十年。其實又唔算難 maintain.  久唔久出面有免費 conference, 又可以
賺 8-9 個 CPEs.  乖乖地睇本書又有 5 CPEs...  當然花時間就真。不過好少為左佢而花錢 (除左每年好
甘既 US$85 年費)...  :)

P.S. : you are CISSP as well?

Rallying.Cry 2011-5-26 02:06 PM

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Thanks.  的確我要重新考慮過...  

我個 CISSP 都 maintain 左差不多十年。其實又唔算難 maintain.  久唔久出面有免費 conference, 又可以
賺 8-9 個 CPEs.  乖乖地睇本書又有 5 CPEs...  當然花時間就真。不 ... [/quote]


no, 我淨係識吹水唔抹咀 :smile_40::smile_40:

siudom 2011-5-26 02:36 PM

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no, 我淨係識吹水唔抹咀 :smile_40::smile_40: [/quote]

吹水都吹到咁有道理頭頭是道,的確係做總統既好材料...
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