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Ringow222 2011-6-24 09:41 PM

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After 2011 SIHH and Basel, very likely most of us will find our new loves. Putting aside those unrealistic and not really excited (to me) pieces, glad that now leaving only three pieces in my short list.

Ching, may I have your comments? Good or bad, like or dislike, which is your pick? Appreciate.

All below pics and texts borrows from internet ..

GO Senator Automatic

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Senator Automatic自動上鍊錶款,濫觴於格拉蘇蒂腕錶在製錶領域裡所擁有的豐富歷史資產,對傳統鐘錶設計懷抱著深深的敬意:纖細修長的黑色羅馬數字時標在銀色面盤上悠遊自在,面盤外圈有著軌道式分鐘刻度,搭配藍鋼指針使得意境更加幽遠。同樣以藍鋼打造的秒針在,其尾端配重特意製作成格拉蘇蒂腕錶「雙G」標誌的樣式。藍寶石水晶鏡面雙面皆經過防眩處理,讓這個充滿吸引力的經典面盤設計一覽無遺;錶殼則以尊貴的玫瑰金打造。
# n& u5 H5 Z6 {2 C5 o& x        錶背上鑲嵌著藍寶石水晶鏡面,它讓鐘錶鑑賞家們探索這枚經典傑作的動力心臟,展現格拉蘇蒂原創在製錶技藝上的成就。全程在格拉蘇蒂工坊內,以手工打造的自動上鍊機芯為caliber 39-59,振頻為每小時28,800擺(擺頻4Hz),儲能為40小時。所有鋼質零件皆經導角,採用經典的鵝頸式微調裝置,寶石軸承外側加以黃金套筒,並以藍鋼螺絲固定;傳統的四分之三夾板以及鏤空的自動盤,兩者皆飾以格拉蘇蒂波紋,以彰顯傳統德國頂級製錶技藝。Senator Automatic亦提供拋光亮面處理的不鏽鋼款式;玫瑰金以及不鏽鋼款皆搭配黑色路易西安那短吻鱷魚皮錶帶。

JLC Ultra Thin Moon

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簡潔的線條設計,賞心悅目的錶盤。 月相顯示令錶盤盡顯活力,宛如一幕和諧美妙的腕上芭蕾。透過藍寶石水晶底蓋,機芯運行一目了然。這款厚度僅4.9毫米的超薄機芯向世人證實,超凡的技藝和極盡複雜的功能可以在狹小的空間內完美展現。

本次我們介紹的Master Ultra Thin Moon月相腕錶,是Master系列的最新成員,主要的外型設計仍延續Master系列的簡約古典風格,不過錶殼造型仍然有些許不同。主要的差異在於錶圈結構,因為以往的Master系列錶款中,錶圈的寬度較大,同時只有一個斜面設計。但是在今年的S.I.H.H.錶展中,積家所推出的Master系列,包括陀飛輪、萬年曆或是Geographic時區錶款,錶圈的寬度都縮小,同時採用一個斜面與垂直向上的設計。所以筆者在拿到本款腕錶之際,始終覺得與先前的Master錶款略有不同,後來才發現最大的改變在於錶圈結構;這樣的改變可讓Master系列具有更濃厚的古典氣息,同時面盤的整體面積也略為擴大。由於本款腕錶的另一項訴求在於超薄(從Ultra Thin的字義便可了解),除了採用輕薄的自動機芯之外,廠方也將錶殼曲線修飾的更優雅圓潤,讓錶殼側面的線條迅速與底蓋融入為一體,塑造出更完美的輕薄造型。

Jaquet Droz

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雅克德羅秉持一貫的前衛創新精神,以全新腕錶獨家工藝重新詮釋 Grande Seconde 系列,推出兩款“全黑”錶盤腕錶。這項工藝為雅克德羅首創,首先將錶盤浸入化學溶劑中,令其附上一層完美黝黑的塗層。隨后,在對錶盤上各部件進行整體切割。此項工序需要小心雕出時標(必要時進行磨砂處理),賦予錶盤獨特光澤與全新質感。

最后,雅克德羅所推出的第三款 Grande Seconde Quantième 腕錶,則以品牌最為珍愛的精湛工藝打造出耀眼奪目的白色鍍銀錶盤,盡顯簡約之美。

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smallpea 2011-6-25 10:25 AM

Don't know much about Jacquet Droz. Don't really like that particular model of GO, the design just doesn't seem very German to me, I think other Senators are better with dome glass and numbers. Besides I really thinkit looks like a Zenith Elite to me for dome reasons. So if I have to choose, I would choose the JLC.



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Ringow222 2011-6-25 10:29 AM

Chings / friends, need comments ah :Q :Q ::')

Ringow222 2011-6-25 09:36 PM

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Don't know much about Jacquet Droz. Don't really like that particular model of GO, the design just doesn't seem very German to me, I think other Senators are better with dome glass and numbers. Beside ... [/quote]

Thanks Smallpea hing.   Maybe I should pick JLC as it is already available,   but not the other two;   and as my AD told me JLC  would have another price increase in Jull again :smile_27:

socialwong 2011-6-25 10:10 PM

Hi Ringow222 ching,

I would rank JLC>GO>JD in your list.

Reasons:
1) JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon is the most beautifully design I've ever seen in Control series. Besides basic time-telling, it provides date and moon phase complication in a clean and balanced dial. Wonderful!
2) This GO comes with subtle german style which could not be seen in the first glance. However, its famous cal. 39 incorporated features including polished stainless steel components with bevelled edges, a fine swan-neck adjustment, screw-mounted
gold chatons and the traditional Glashutte three-quarter plate and skeletonized rotor, both with traditional Glashutte ribbing. If you choose Rose gold version instead of steel, I would rank it top. One word: Simple is classic. (Ever consider Senator Perpetual Calendar or Senator Diary 2011?)
3) Even JD is also second to the top class, as same as JLC and GO, it doesn't seem to
provide much in its entry level product. I learnt that JD is famous in enamel dial, however,
most of them cost over $2xx,xxx......

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smallpea 2011-6-25 11:42 PM

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Thanks Smallpea hing.   Maybe I should pick JLC as it is already available,   but not the other two;   and as my AD told me JLC  would have another price increase in Jull again :smile_27: [/quote]

Don't think you will regret for JLC, go for it!



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kj17578 2011-6-26 03:52 AM

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I have a JLC and now I am itching for a GO...

smallpea 2011-6-26 10:01 AM

Well, 毒呢家嘢係無窮無盡嘅! 師主都係睇開啲la



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daniel_hk 2011-6-26 10:34 AM

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Hi Ringo, I think this JLC moonphase is nice. But your Day and Night Model owned previous has better arrangement on the dial. For the size and case, this new version moonphase is better.

If you go for GO, should consider some other famous models but need to pay more.

Kust my opinions! Wish you can get your new love soon and share pics to us!

Cheers, Daniel



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Ringow222 2011-6-26 12:02 PM

Glad to receive your comments, thanks all Ching :loveliness: :loveliness:

Seemed JLC a better choice. This afternoon I will the put the real thing on from Boutique, will be exciting ..

Ringow222 2011-6-26 12:27 PM

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Hi Ringow222 ching,

I would rank JLC>GO>JD in your list.

Reasons:
1) JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon is the most beautifully design I've ever seen in Control series. Besides basic time-telling, it p ... [/quote]


Social hing,

Comments on JLC is overwhelming. I like it as well.

If price would not be far away from JLC (I doubt it), I will give JD a higher 'mark' when JD is so mysterious and when I did not own one. The charateristic dial design in an "8" pattern really looks cool, particurlarly when an additional date element is putting in the second circle in this new model.

For the new GO, maybe there is some many great GO model before it. The best looking GO IMO is still our 'old' PML.

Ringow222 2011-6-26 12:32 PM

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I have a JLC and now I am itching for a GO... [/quote]

This will be very itchy, until you get your GO. I also owned a JLC before my PML, go for one ..

Ringow222 2011-6-26 01:00 PM

To Smallpea hing,
"Don't think you will regret for JLC, go for it!"

I' m heading now to TST lar, hope to find one to put on ..



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Ringow222 2011-6-26 01:55 PM

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Hi Ringo, I think this JLC moonphase is nice. But your Day and Night Model owned previous has better arrangement on the dial. For the size and case, this new version moonphase is better.

If you go fo ... [/quote]
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Hi Ringo, I think this JLC moonphase is nice. But your Day and Night Model owned previous has better arrangement on the dial. For the size and case, this new version moonphase is better.

If you go fo ... [/quote]

The Hometime' dial is pretty; think the uneasy part is to put the date, day&night, and the second circle together in such balance manner, jlc manages to do it well.

You have a good observation to notice on the new case design of new jlc, entirely different from the entire master series and looks good to me.



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LordFarkward 2011-6-26 04:12 PM

JLC is no doubt classic, and I've always been drawn to the ultra-thin series.

However, I must say I have been very drawn to JD lately. To me they don't make the best looking rotor (had always looked "cheap" to me at first glance, for whatever reason), but I've had an opportunity to take a look at the finishing of the dial and hands very close up and it is immaculate. The added date function in no doubt is a plus in my books as it's very subtle, and I would go for the blue-hand version as I think it looks very elegant. On top of that, the signature 8-dial, and that as far as I can remember all JD's are in very limited production (in the tune of hundreds only), I think it adds to the exclusivity.

If price is not really an issue (I would imagine that the JD would be the most expensive here, with the GO very close to it?) I would go for it.

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Ringow222 2011-6-26 07:07 PM

LordFardward hing, very glad to find one who shares the fondness on a JD; agree to your comments on a JD; the blue hand (white-dial) model also gets my attention more as well, we just have too much feeling in common to a JD !! But the new models are still not available for real touch :smile_22:

I like the 39 mm (for lady) more than the 43 mm of the current models; 43 is too big on wrist, not sure if the new model can come with 39mm. Price will be another concern as a JD is quite formidable in this regard :smile_39:

smallpea 2011-6-26 07:30 PM

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To Smallpea hing,
"Don't think you will regret for JLC, go for it!"

I' m heading now to TST lar, hope to find one to put on ..



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So how did it go c hing?



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Ringow222 2011-6-26 09:07 PM

Smallpea hing,

The SS model is quite sought-after (was told) and is not available to most shop. But luckily I can see one in Harbour City Boutique. Comments as follows:

The dial is exceptional good looking on my wrist (sorry that I did not request to take a photo). The moon phrase with date on the 6 's position is just too charming and IMO is the perfect combination of the two functions in that position (I still like also the layout of my PML :smile_44: ); dial for SS version radiates in metallic silvery fashion, while the RG version comes in creamy yellow, IMO both have its merit; case 39 mm can perfectly sit on wrist and under the sleeve, that 's cool!; case back is pretty much the same as an JLC, don't expect much in a low end model; I like the case to come in more weight in the RG version, hmm, the color is not so much the cup of tea of a HK guy. But the new case design, which not only looks much slimmer than the other Master series but also with a nice curve, really nice curve. Another innovation is the dial ring, which make the new jlc so special than the old master model. Only when you have a touch of the real thing you can understand my message here. both are very good & nice changes brought to the new jlc.

Conclusion, I will not regret to get it now. Problem is it is out of stock according to my AD. Have to wait, better to come before the upcoming price increment :smile_40: :smile_40:

socialwong 2011-6-26 09:57 PM

Nice choice! Hope you could get yours ASAP!
Remember to post here and share with all of us.

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Smallpea hing,

The SS model is quite sought-after (was told) and is not available to most shop. But luckily I can see one in Harbour City Boutique. Comments as follows:

The dial is exceptional g ... [/quote]

smallpea 2011-6-26 10:15 PM

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Smallpea hing,

The SS model is quite sought-after (was told) and is not available to most shop. But luckily I can see one in Harbour City Boutique. Comments as follows:

The dial is exceptional g ... [/quote]

Nice! Glad that you msde your choice! Good luck mate!



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LordFarkward 2011-6-26 11:10 PM

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LordFardward hing, very glad to find one who shares the fondness on a JD; agree to your comments on a JD; the blue hand (white-dial) model also gets my attention more as well, we just have too much fe ... [/quote]
So I guess you've checked out JD's boutique store in Peking road and they still don't have it there? That's a shame, becausez I think you should really take a close look  (with a magnifying glass that they provide you with) and you'll just see how great the dial and hands look.

If size is an issue, I understand why you're drawn to the JLC - it is no doubt a great choice too! Given that the JLC is also much thinner than the JD, it really adds to that subtlety and elegance.

Have you also tried the GO at the boutique store in Causeway Bay yet (is it even out?)? Personally, all three watches are great choices, but I believe you won't make the best choice (if time allows) until you have tried all three on your wrists. Truth be told - I think both the GO and JD are better in terms of finishing and decoration (GO should be the most beautiful of the three, they always produce such flawless finishing to the watch face AND the movement, while I have reservations for JD's movement), while JLC has the most robust and tried-and-tested movement of the three.

No doubt a very difficult decision (although it already seems like you've already settled on the JLC :p), but I still think if time allows you should really try on all three!

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Ringow222 2011-6-26 11:56 PM

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So I guess you've checked out JD's boutique store in Peking road and they still don't have it there? That's a shame, becausez I think you should really take a close look  (with a magnifying glass th ... [/quote]

Are you serious that the two have been available? I' m just so pre-occupied by the jlc to ignore them.

What a pity that I did not check the new JD when passing by the JD Boutique !!

Your comment on the GO is so tempting that I had no reason for not putting it on my wrist!

Thing gets more interesting now !!



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andrewphy 2011-6-27 12:35 AM

My comments are:

(1) GO: Simple three hand Watch. Simple Design. Simple movement. Nothing special.
Better to say, if the words "Glasuhtte Original" is disappeared, 90% above people cannot guess correctly it is GO.
So, I wont spend, or waste money, on it.

(2) JLC: Traditional JLC design. However, I dont like Ultra-thin Watch with case > 40mm.
Again, I wont spend, or waste money, on it.

(3) Jaquet Droz: Too expensive. For this brand, it is easy to find some water stock with crazy discount.
But in fact, it is a good watch in my eyes.
It gives me a "high-grade" feel: Unique design with Enamel dial.
The only concern is, it is a brand of Swatch Group... the "famous" service center.
If I had money, I would buy old items with crazy discount instead of 2011 items.

Ringow222 2011-6-27 11:44 PM

Hi Andrew hing, glad to receive your comments.  

Share with you my simple three-hand, one of my favourites. Photo taken last Sunday when I came home from TST ..

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I like the JD as well, hope to see the real thing v soon ..

LordFarkward 2011-6-27 11:54 PM

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Are you serious that the two have been available? I' m just so pre-occupied by the jlc to ignore them.

What a pity that I did not check the new JD when passing by the JD Boutique !!

Your com ... [/quote]
Sorry just realised I did not see your reply.

I actually don't know the other two are available yet - sorry if my comment was misleading before and made you think that. I was only suggesting that you should try all three before you make your decision, that is all :)

Ringow222 2011-6-28 10:01 PM

Lordfarkward hing, you are welcome, that's genuine sharing! Only that I' m so itchy towards the jlc now that I might not be possible to wait for the other two!



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LordFarkward 2011-6-28 11:27 PM

haha I understand that itch

something tells me you'll eventually get all three in the end :P

eta2892a2 2011-6-29 07:23 PM

Ringow222 兄,
I'm always a JLC & GO fan, but this time I would vote for the JD Grande Second out of your list. The reason behind's just my personal taste in accordance with the tradition. I prefer watches with small second sub-dial for dressing, center second for sport.
For this particular GO dial, the one come with RdM indicator at 12 & small second at 6 is looking much better. It refers to their original Marine Clock layout. Center second on it makes me feel there's something go wrong. The impression of the JLC is something similar....
On the other hand, traditional JD pocket watch dial layout with Frederic Piguet movement sounds not bad at all. In fact you are a owner of both JLC & GO watches, why not give JD a try this time before further consideration .
Cheers!!

Ringow222 2011-6-30 01:42 PM

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haha I understand that itch

something tells me you'll eventually get all three in the end :P [/quote]

I 'm quite pragmatic, and because my 'move' will always be closely monitoring by 'someone', I think I would only take one and put the two in my wish list, a list that would not be likely to realize .. :smile_19:

Ringow222 2011-6-30 01:50 PM

eta hing,

Well said. That's pretty close to my original thought on JD. Glad that you and some Chings also shared the fondness on JD (not sure if the JLC & GO are not good enough).

Ahhh, this only complicated my choice with the comments from both camps (Pro - JLC and Pro - JD) :L :L
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