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hoyes02 2011-7-8 10:49 PM

BBO的6NT

[size=3]北家
S: AK542
H: 97
D: KQ2
C: A65


南家
S: -
H: AKJT
D: AT9653
C: 982

以上是一副在BBO打的牌,雙方無價,北家主打6NT,東西無叫過牌。東家首攻梅花4,夢家跟小牌,西家亮出梅花K。莊家數數兩手牌,合共只有11個贏張,應如何打牌?如何才是成功機會最高的打法?大家一起討論下:loveliness:
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apenguin 2011-7-9 05:18 PM

紅心點都要飛,50%(西家回梅花)

hoyes02 2011-7-13 12:35 AM

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紅心點都要飛,50%(西家回梅花) [/quote]

[size=4]咁幾時飛好d?[/size]

kerori 2011-7-19 07:25 PM

在打方塊前打紅心A,方塊過橋飛.....
不過本人認為這副只值3NT...:)

petqwe 2011-7-20 11:25 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]kerori[/i] 於 2011-7-19 07:25 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=296315104&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
在打方塊前打紅心A,方塊過橋飛.....
不過本人認為這副只值3NT...:) [/quote]
I cannot understand why you think you can only play in 3NT when 6D is cold.

kerori 2011-7-20 09:56 PM

回覆 5# 的帖子

睇漏眼 @_@
要頂分就6NT飛heart Q...

petqwe 2011-7-22 05:27 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]kerori[/i] 於 2011-7-20 09:56 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=296435226&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
睇漏眼 @_@
要頂分就6NT飛heart Q... [/quote]
If you need a top, you should have bid 7NT.

goodpeople40 2011-7-26 10:37 PM

如果冇數錯(初學者)
應該係24個HCP
未夠成局v_v(睇分)
同埋人地都有一隻A一隻K

petqwe 2011-7-27 12:31 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]goodpeople40[/i] 於 2011-7-26 10:37 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=297033029&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如果冇數錯(初學者)
應該係24個HCP
未夠成局v_v(睇分)
同埋人地都有一隻A一隻K [/quote]
It is such a sad fact that when players were taught to evaluate their hands by Milton Work's HCP scale, they never make another move towards better bidding.
This scale is terribly inaccurate in high level trump contracts, especially those with a good fit.
We don't give a damn care to missing high cards as long as there are 13 tricks ready to cash.

onego 2011-7-27 02:27 PM

thanks for sharing

CP-KELVIN 2011-8-3 04:58 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]petqwe[/i] 於 2011-7-27 12:31 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=297084588&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

It is such a sad fact that when players were taught to evaluate their hands by Milton Work's HCP scale, they never make another move towards better bidding.
This scale is terribly inaccurate in hig ... [/quote]

For beginners, it is easier to learn the simple but inaccurate method and then turn to the more sophisticated and accurate one after they have become more familiar with the game and encountered problems with their current system.  Hand evaluation is a very difficult part in bidding which requires both a good method and ample experience.

CP-KELVIN 2011-8-3 05:06 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]hoyes02[/i] 於 2011-7-8 10:49 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=295227764&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
北家
S: AK542
H: 97
D: KQ2
C: A65


南家
S: -
H: AKJT
D: AT9653
C: 982

以上是一副在BBO打的牌,雙方無價,北家主打6NT,東西無叫過牌。東家首攻梅花4,夢家跟小牌,西家亮出梅花K。莊家數數兩手牌 ... [/quote]

其實呢付牌好易打, 因為唔夠橋上手, 梅花又俾人攻破左, 所以既冇得擠又冇得投, 只有合埋雙眼飛紅心!

如果係打mp既, 就一於第一圈CA上手即飛紅心, 搏做UP 1; 如果係IMP/TEAM, 就先試拔紅心A擊落單張Q, 打多少少機會.

petqwe 2011-8-4 10:35 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]CP-KELVIN[/i] 於 2011-8-3 04:58 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=297974495&ptid=14758686][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


For beginners, it is easier to learn the simple but inaccurate method and then turn to the more sophisticated and accurate one after they have become more familiar with the game and encountered problems with their current system.  Hand evaluation is a very difficult part in bidding which requires both a good method and ample experience.

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Fits can nullify the power of high cards, and if one believes the Law of Total Tricks, he should stick to it. Fits take tricks and high cards will do what they are supposed to.
Moreover, locating (understanding) a fit is so difficult once you know what a FIT is. I do not think calculating 5+4 is more difficult than 12+14.

mickey5u3721 2011-8-11 11:51 AM

如果HQ偷到 7NT都MAKE到

BeSmart 2012-2-22 11:50 PM

問題是,點解要第一輪食?我點都輸第一副先,又唔係打7NT。
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