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freefight 2012-2-1 12:04 PM

CISSP/CISA好推介

邊間讀CISSP/CISA比較好,  考材好D, 容易D合格?
   
有冇邊間好推介?

nohope 2012-2-2 03:22 PM

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self study should be OK

freefight 2012-2-3 03:21 PM

...................:funk:

siudom 2012-2-3 03:49 PM

多做 review questions 比較實際...

birdnest2012 2012-2-4 09:59 AM

ITeasypass dot com is not bad.[b]..[/b][color=Red][/color]
but make sure you download and study CISA ebook, need to review the ebook at least 2 times
Studying brain dump (at least 2 sets of brain dump) is a must

[[i] 本帖最後由 birdnest2012 於 2012-2-8 02:54 PM 編輯 [/i]]

freefight 2012-2-4 12:34 PM

thanks thanks~ 樓上 c hing
咁有冇人試過kornerstone.com.hk 佢地收費過萬元, 你咪真係教得咁好呢?

siudom 2012-2-5 10:01 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]freefight[/i] 於 2012-2-4 12:34 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318392964&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
thanks thanks~ 樓上 c hing
咁有冇人試過kornerstone.com.hk 佢地收費過萬元, 你咪真係教得咁好呢? [/quote]

上年我就讀過 Kornerstone 既 CISA course.  5 堂 total 15 個鐘,
early bird 價 HK$3900.  CISSP 同 PMP 先要過萬...

freefight 2012-2-6 10:28 AM

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c hing 請問讀完kornestone嘅cisa, 覺得佢地質素如何? eg: 師資,教材,上課環境 等等。。。



[url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/iphone][img=100,23]http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/iphoneD.jpg[/img][/url]

siudom 2012-2-6 02:54 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]freefight[/i] 於 2012-2-6 10:28 AM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318635317&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
c hing 請問讀完kornestone嘅cisa, 覺得佢地質素如何? eg: 師資,教材,上課環境 等等。。。



http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/iphoneD.jpg [/quote]

教我果位 instructor 叫 Frank Chow.  個人認為佢教得唔錯。不過如果你為左
考試合格的話,唔應該靠 instructor.  做 review questions 先至係最重要。

個課室環境算係幾 ok.  不過我 take 果班只有 11 人。當中只有我同另一位同學
係考上年 12 月 exam.  另一個同學就考黎緊六月果個...  其他人就只係為左
興趣,又或者洗下佢公司 D 錢 ...

[[i] 本帖最後由 siudom 於 2012-2-6 02:57 PM 編輯 [/i]]

小貓兒 2012-2-6 05:46 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]birdnest2012[/i] 於 2012-2-4 09:59 AM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318379425&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ITeasypass dot com is not bad
but make sure you download and study CISA ebook, need to review the ebook at least 2 times
Studying brain dump (at least 2 sets of brain dump) is a must [/quote]

你咁講即係送樓主上斷頭台.

小貓兒 2012-2-6 05:50 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]siudom[/i] 於 2012-2-6 02:54 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318657868&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


教我果位 instructor 叫 Frank Chow.  個人認為佢教得唔錯。不過如果你為左
考試合格的話,唔應該靠 instructor.  做 review questions 先至係最重要。

個課室環境算係幾 ok.  不過我 take 果班只有 11 人。 ... [/quote]

要cissp合格, 一定要透徹理解每個domain, 然後識得應用.
死記就包你目肥佬.
市面啲review question 冇個幫到你. 唯有靠你對果個domain 有幾理解.

siudom 2012-2-6 07:43 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]小貓兒[/i] 於 2012-2-6 05:50 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318672636&ptid=17591369][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
要cissp合格, 一定要透徹理解每個domain, 然後識得應用.
死記就包你目肥佬.
市面啲review question 冇個幫到你. 唯有靠你對果個domain 有幾理解.
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之前我提既係 CISA, 而唔係 CISSP.  CISSP 我十年前考,所以唔再講我當年附碌考到既心得。

當然考 CISA 一定要讀書同埋明白。死背一定死硬。不過,做 Review Questions 既作用,係幫自己 tune 好考試既步伐。考過 CISA 既朋友都會知道,佢有 D 題目都幾 subjective.  所以做 Review Questions tune 好自己其實好重要。仲有,我講既 Review Questions, 係指 ISACA 每年出果本 900 Review Questions...!   唔係咩坊間試題。

呢個係我岩岩考左 CISA 既心得。

[[i] 本帖最後由 siudom 於 2012-2-6 07:57 PM 編輯 [/i]]

freefight 2012-2-6 11:23 PM

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好受用嘅心得, 謝謝C Hing:loveliness:

yinfei 2012-2-7 07:27 PM

CHING, 可唔可以講得詳細D, 例如:

1. 自修資料去邊度搵, 同埋做邊度既題目增加對考試內容理解 (如選擇自修)
2. 報讀那個課程較好 (如欲選擇跟導師應試)

birdnest2012 2012-2-8 12:22 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]小貓兒[/i] 於 2012-2-6 05:46 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318672222&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


你咁講即係送樓主上斷頭台. [/quote]
小貓兒, that was exactly how I prepared for the CISA exam.  I studied the CISA study guide Year 2006 & 2009. And I went through 2 sets of review Q & A.  I started reading the study guide in Nov and finished reading the 2 study guides in early Dec.  Then I went through the review Q & A in Dec before the exam.  

Since this was the way I prepared for the CISA exam, I don't know what other advise I can offer.

birdnest2012 2012-2-8 02:56 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]birdnest2012[/i] 於 2012-2-4 09:59 AM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318379425&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ITeasypass dot com is not bad...
but make sure you download and study CISA ebook, need to review the ebook at least 2 times
Studying brain dump (at least 2 sets of brain dump) is a must [/quote]
[color=Red]Sorry.....it was not ITEasyPass.....
I actually took the course at Great Learning....
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freefight 2012-2-8 03:44 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]birdnest2012[/i] 於 2012-2-8 14:56 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318890299&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Sorry.....it was not ITEasyPass.....
I actually took the course at Great Learning....
[/quote]

[size=4]覺得佢地質素如何? eg: 師資,教材,上課環境 等等....[/size]

birdnest2012 2012-2-8 04:49 PM

師資 8/10, the tutor was quite ok, he would not mind answering any questions regarding the exam, IT audit industry, and he is also willing to be a sponsor for CISSP certification

教材 7/10,
The teaching material given by the tutor is definitely not good enough to prepare for the exam.
I think the school provided some free ebook and they are quite ok.  
But you must download additional CISA study guide ebook and also the CISA review Q&A. Just do a Google search for CISA ebook download (sorry, I can't remember the exact download site).  
I think the CISA Study Guide by David L. Cannon, Timonthy S. Bergmann, Brady Pamplin (Wiley Publishing, Inc) is good for learning the fundamentals.
But personally I think the "Certified Information Systems Auditor CISA Review Manual 2011" is not good, it is too technical and too dry.  I gave up reading the review manual after 50 pages.
However, the "CISA Review Questions, Answers & Explanations Manual 2009" and 2011 are very good and you must do all the multiple choices and the explanations (if you happen to get the wrong answer)

上課 7/10, the facility is just ok, but the projector and a/c not that good

[[i] 本帖最後由 birdnest2012 於 2012-2-8 05:01 PM 編輯 [/i]]

siudom 2012-2-8 11:04 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]birdnest2012[/i] 於 2012-2-8 12:22 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=318876738&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

小貓兒, that was exactly how I prepared for the CISA exam.  I studied the CISA study guide Year 2006 & 2009. And I went through 2 sets of review Q & A.  I started reading the study guide in Nov and  ... [/quote]

I think that he was talking about the "ebook" which you mentioned.  Technically,
keeping a bootleg copy (ie. pirate copy) of textbook is considered  code of conduct
violation in CISA.

Of course, in some occasions, keeping a legal copy of ebook is ok.  For
example, I bought a CISA textbook (CISA all in One... by Peter Geogrey)
in May last year.  The book comes with a CD which includes an electronic
PDF file of the textbook.  This file is quite handy as I could read
the book anytime on my Android Tablet.

summer87 2012-2-15 10:08 PM

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Please don't waste money for those examinations. If you are not an IT auditor or a security officer; those exam are useless for you. You cannot get a job with cert. only. Experience is essential.

freefight 2012-2-17 09:37 AM

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I am already to be an IT engineer, just plan to extend my knowledge and secure my career.
Nothing is useless, both experience and certification are important. Especially in Hong Kong, employers usually expect more and more than you have.

siudom 2012-2-17 11:02 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]freefight[/i] 於 2012-2-17 09:37 AM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=319788267&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I am already to be an IT engineer, just plan to extend my knowledge and secure my career.
Nothing is useless, both experience and certification are important. Especially in Hong Kong, employers usual ... [/quote]

For CISA, you need to have have at least 5 years of working experience in IT auditing,
IT Governance, and/or IT Security.  Not sure about your job as IT engineer is about.
But without such experience, you cannot be certified as a CISA even if you pass
the exam.

Rallying.Cry 2012-2-24 02:06 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]freefight[/i] 於 2012-2-17 09:37 AM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=319788267&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I am already to be an IT engineer, just plan to extend my knowledge and secure my career.
Nothing is useless, both experience and certification are important. Especially in Hong Kong, employers usual ... [/quote]
首先第一個問題係你夠唔夠經驗,樓上師兄講左,考完試都要有老闆endorse你先可以正式攞牌做CISA。

其次係你每三年要讀120粒鐘CPE先可以main住張cert,差唔多等於大學讀三個sem;有一半CPE可以免費讀,其餘一半要真金白銀(上堂學費,有時可能要包埋酒店食宿),連埋啲時間,值唔值租睇你自己。

如果唔打算瞓身做security/audit呢行,我覺得你投資其他方面好過。

freefight 2012-2-24 11:45 PM

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thank you for your comments

gcf78 2012-3-6 04:26 AM

I did self-study to pass my exam. Practice with the ISACA official exam material I think helped a lot. The purpose of taking it is not same as doing Braindump exam, which is waste of time and it should not exist in the first place. This is making certification totally useless in the industry. The objective is to get familiar with the way they layout the questions.

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freefight 2012-3-9 03:10 PM

true

kelvlam 2012-3-21 11:57 AM

Just to confirm that I'm not confused...

Certified Information Systems Security Professional
CISSP - from ISC2 [url]https://www.isc2.org/cissp/default.aspx[/url]

Certified Information Systems Auditor
CISA - from ISACA [url]http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CISA-Certified-Information-Systems-Auditor/Pages/default.aspx[/url]

I understand the whole 5-yrs experience, and a valid standing current member's endorsement, etc all those requirements.  But these cert, are really meant for people that are DEEP in Security/Audit field, not just some basic IT job right?

kelvlam 2012-3-21 12:36 PM

Oh, and while at this... just want to get some local HK intelligent from people in the field already (be it CF, audit, security or what have you).  As I searched the board, seem Rallying.Cry and siudom are well known ;-)

It's like Microsoft trap you in .NET and then the rest are in the school of Java.
In CF field there's EnCase -> EnCE and FTK -> ACE.  But seem neither of these certification path/training is available in Hong Kong.  Is that the case?

For North-America oriented work (aka USA), there's ISFCE's CCE, IACIS's CFCE and IACRB's CCFE.  Not sure if any of those is valid/recognized in APAC.
[url]http://www.isfce.com/certification.htm[/url]
[url]https://www.iacis.com/certification/external_overview[/url]
[url]http://www.iacertification.org/ccfe_certified_computer_forensics_examiner.html[/url]

Like everyone, just want to invest the $ into the right area that actually help napping a higher paying job.  :smile_52:

andylcm 2012-3-26 04:33 PM

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hoping_c 2012-3-28 12:01 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]andylcm[/i] 於 2012-3-26 04:33 PM 發表 [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=323900617&ptid=17591369][img]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
早前上了Systematic的CISSP,教的人叫Franco, 講真, 教得真係普普通通, 不過咁平都預左($2980). 剛才上isc2 想報名考試, 點知發現香港的考試只得4月21日一個已滿, 上幾次上website見佢都show晒一年的schedule, 大家知 ... [/quote]
你可以得閒去看下有冇空位, 因為有時有人會reschedule
仲有可以打去問有冇waiting list
我前年是waiting list, 最後可以排到, 不過太近考試日子, 冇得唔記得幾多日前可以報名平US$50
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