苦樂 2012-8-20 00:56
我今年26，剛剛學番鋼琴差唔多三個月。
以前細個都學過，但冇考過級。
我miss話以我而家ge 程度要考三級應該會合格。
但，以我能力再學落去要考到六級以上就會好困難。
我miss話小朋友學野快，吸收能力快，要考8級會比成人容易。
而家我廿幾歲，要揾食，只可以業餘性質。係咪要8考級鋼琴係一件冇可能ge事。:smile_39:
lvvl 2012-8-20 01:50
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我今年26，剛剛學番鋼琴差唔多三個月。
以前細個都學過，但冇考過級。
我miss話以我而家ge 程度要考三級應該會合格。
但，以我能力再學落去要考到六級以上就會好困難。
我miss話小朋友學野快，吸收能力快 ... [/quote]
呢d本來就係業餘旣考試，考八級點會係無可能旣事:smile_45:
草龜樂園 2012-8-20 05:24
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我今年26，剛剛學番鋼琴差唔多三個月。
以前細個都學過，但冇考過級。
我miss話以我而家ge 程度要考三級應該會合格。
但，以我能力再學落去要考到六級以上就會好困難。
我miss話小朋友學野快，吸收能力快 ... [/quote]
[size=4]要睇你之前學左幾多，練左幾多[/size]
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[size=4]所謂功力[/size]
stinkyrabbit 2012-8-20 09:24
有什麼不可能, 只在乎你有沒有心, 有幾喜歡呢樣嘢....
iq_imbalance 2012-8-20 12:30
it is very easy to pass LTCL for any physically and mentally healthy adults who devotes time and effort into piano playing. (this SHOULD BE taken LITERALLY.)
苦樂 2012-8-20 13:38
好多謝！你地ge鼓勵。Miss咁講真係幾down down 地！
而家我最大問題係彈琴時改唔到手形，做唔到連音。
什至跟唔上拍子:smile_45:
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iq_imbalance 2012-8-20 14:39
your teacher is fundamentally wrong (to be frank).
children and adults must be taught differently.
children are best to be trained; adults are best to be educated.
as an adult, you should aim for education, and not training, which should only be applied to children. most chinese (not just chinese teachers) cannot distinguish these two terms.
many adults learners can go from zero knowledge in music (not just piano) to grade 8 in a few (e.g. 3) years. i'm talking about their capability, not just getting the certificate.
at the end, it depends on: (1) your musical talent; (2) your teacher's teaching talent; and (3) your attitude.
seanchan528
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tsang000111 2012-8-20 16:32
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我覺得你的miss會咁講只係因為：
1）她以己度人,佢覺得如果係佢自己,佢會做唔到
2）她以往很少教成人的成功經驗,然後她覺得問題是在學生身上
20幾仲後生,大把人老過你先學,也上到8級以上
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agree! 我識大把成人學生一樣考到 grade 8! 不過條件是要有好老師! 一般姐姐仔無乜教成人方法及經驗！
iq_imbalance 2012-8-20 16:37
i'd go on to say that 一般姐姐仔 don't even know how to teach children.... :smile_39:
symphonicdance 2012-8-20 19:15
I would say other professional qualifications like CPA, CFA are more difficult for people who did not take accounting and finance as their university majors. And some people could get theirs eventually in their 40's, 50's.
These qualifications are much tougher and difficult for people who started accounting and finance from plain white sheet of paper than Grade 8 for adults who started an instrument from zero.
So, Grade 8 is not impossible at all for you.
rainforest 2012-8-20 19:29
哈，我同你好似，我13歲先學鋼琴，學咗唔夠兩年冇學（冇考過試）。兩年前（26歲）學返，本來老師都問過我考唔考五級，但我決定唔考住。雖然而家冇乜進步，但我唔覺得我會去唔到八級。一齊努力啦
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iq_imbalance 2012-8-20 19:47
that is simply because those people have never learnt accounting and finance systematically.... if they did, CFA and CPA would be much easier to get.
and i don't think one should compare grade 8 piano with them.... maybe FRSM is more appropriate.
oystermo 2012-8-20 22:46
我都係大人，學緊五級，初學時，成日有人問係咪成人學手指會唔聽使，我就從來無咁嘅感覺，我想如果我學唔到八級得兩個原因： 冇錢，或對學琴冇咗興趣。
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苦樂 2012-8-21 02:34
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:smile_o12: 對, 只有這2個可能性 [/quote]
咁又係冇錢ge可能性對嚟講係最大，但只要我有工作都afford得到:smile_o12:
草龜樂園 2012-8-21 03:18
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我都係大人，學緊五級，初學時，成日有人問係咪成人學手指會唔聽使，我就從來無咁嘅感覺，我想如果我學唔到八級得兩個原因： 冇錢，或對學琴冇咗興趣。
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[size=4]冇錢不是藉口[/size]
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oystermo 2012-8-21 07:29
坦白講，學琴，租學唔係平玩兒。如果我就係做野根本冇可能負擔。
呢位ching, 我相信你唔了解有兩個可能：
1 由細到大是家人供你學樂器
2 你自己依家收$教人
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冇錢不是藉口
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小無限 2012-8-21 11:53
成人點都比小朋友聰明同吸收得快呱...唔通你自己覺得你連小朋友都不如.....無錯手指同音樂感可能無D由細學到大既小朋友好
但吸引方面應該快好多, 老師可能講一次你就明, 小朋友可能要講幾次
你上一堂學到既野可能係D小朋友要學2-3堂時間先明既野.....
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苦樂 2012-8-21 13:59
樂理我係明白。只係手勢唔好，做唔到連音:smile_39:
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草龜樂園 2012-8-21 22:55
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坦白講，學琴，租學唔係平玩兒。如果我就係做野根本冇可能負擔。
呢位ching, 我相信你唔了解有兩個可能：
1 由細到大是家人供你學樂器
2 你自己依家收$教人
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[size=4]我中一先學鋼琴，中五後自己比錢學到8級[/size]
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[size=4]明白窮學琴的苦況，這段日子，有苦自己知[/size]
草龜樂園 2012-8-21 22:56
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樂理我係明白。只係手勢唔好，做唔到連音:smile_39:
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[size=4]放鬆手腕[/size]
sausaukei 2012-8-22 13:01
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好多謝！你地ge鼓勵。Miss咁講真係幾down down 地！
而家我最大問題係彈琴時改唔到手形，做唔到連音。
什至跟唔上拍子:smile_45:
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Your miss is so honest.
苦樂 2012-8-22 13:06
你ge意思係指成人學生係改唔到連音問題？:smile_41:
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暗戀唔到人
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桂格燕麥片 2012-8-22 18:06
成人學生是可做到的。
草龜樂園 2012-8-22 22:51
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你ge意思係指成人學生係改唔到連音問題？:smile_41:
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[size=4]連音legato，你是指單音還是 double third？[/size]
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[size=4]簡單來說放鬆手腕[/size]
ming728 2012-8-23 00:29
我老師話小朋友學有佢好處,但係大人學都有佢好處。
小朋友就練琴時間較多,手指較靈活,但係練琴就無咁專心。
大人就理解得比較好,練琴比較專心,
但係通常較少時間練and手指無咁靈活。
總括黎講大人學琴唔一定比小朋友差,最緊要練多D
苦樂 2012-8-23 08:46
單音:smile_13:
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lvvl 2012-8-24 02:11
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你ge意思係指成人學生係改唔到連音問題？:smile_41:
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放鬆手腕，但指頭有力，即係好以條皮韃咁打落琴鍵。(伸報：我係唔識彈鋼琴）
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