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PokerDefender 2014-12-3 02:23 AM

NL hold'em discussion

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players -
Vilain: VP=16 PFR=14 Re-steal=18

BB: $52.18
UTG: $55.54
UTG+1: $29.43
MP: $21.25
CO: $32.88
[b]Hero (BTN): $50.00[/b]
[b]SB: $57.16[/b]

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif[/img]
[i]4 folds[/i], [color=red]Hero raises to $1.25[/color], [color=red]SB raises to $4.50[/color], [i]1 fold[/i], Hero calls $3.25

[b]Flop:[/b] ($9.50) Q[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] 8[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif[/img] A[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
[color=red]SB bets $4.50[/color], Hero calls $4.50

[b]Turn:[/b] ($18.50) 3[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
[color=red]SB bets $9[/color], Hero calls $9

[b]River:[/b] ($36.50) 8[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
SB checks, [color=red]Hero bets $32 all in[/color], SB folds

[[i] 本帖最後由 stussy_708 於 2014-12-3 02:49 AM 編輯 [/i]]

PokerDefender 2014-12-3 02:25 AM

River check好像沒意思,所以我選擇了bluff。希望趕走對手Ax
歡迎大家來討論

stussy_708 2014-12-3 02:50 AM

我deleted 左你D link.:smile_44:

PokerDefender 2014-12-3 03:09 AM

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ok~~~

hinwong2008 2014-12-3 07:40 AM

I would put him on a weak A, but actually the possible outside flush draw saved u. Risky play I would say.

jack9931 2014-12-3 10:34 AM

i usually fold or 4b Q9 on button when get 3b from sb/bb.altho in position but q9 i dunno what flop do i want…



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PokerDefender 2014-12-3 05:33 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]hinwong2008[/i] 於 2014-12-3 07:40 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403880756&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I would put him on a weak A, but actually the possible outside flush draw saved u. Risky play I would say. [/quote]
yup,不過我river都有7個outs:smile_30:

PokerDefender 2014-12-3 05:39 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jack9931[/i] 於 2014-12-3 10:34 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403888653&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
i usually fold or 4b Q9 on button when get 3b from sb/bb.altho in position but q9 i dunno what flop do i want…



[img]http://n2.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg[/img] [/quote]4bet is a good play. but i scare about vilain 5bet, since he's a supernova regular.
i think my Q9s still have some potential to call, since vilain is unlikely to 3bet with Q or 9. he probably have a pairs or blocker hands with his re-steal range

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stussy_708 2014-12-3 07:34 PM

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supernova :funk:

PokerDefender 2014-12-3 07:56 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]stussy_708[/i] 於 2014-12-3 07:34 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403921496&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
supernova :funk: [/quote]
50NL 以上好多supernova

hinwong2008 2014-12-3 08:08 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jack9931[/i] 於 2014-12-3 10:34 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403888653&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
i usually fold or 4b Q9 on button when get 3b from sb/bb.altho in position but q9 i dunno what flop do i want…



http://n2.hk/d/images/r10/mobile.jpg [/quote]

What r u talking about!!!! The best flop of Q9h is 8,10,Jh hahahahahha



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davidlam23 2014-12-4 03:38 AM

我用3bet %, 如果Vilain經常3bet from SB/BB 你可以多點 4bet. 如果你認為Vilain never fold to 4bet 你便要收緊你4bet range 只用QQ+ AK去4bet去做每一個決定都要根據你對手玩法去調整.
open Q9s from BTN 100% standard Vilain 3bet, 你可以4bet/call/fold.如果4bet你要認為你有足夠既fold equity
如果call你要有一個plan, 如果flop是A 7 2 面對一個cbet你就fold嗎?  如果答案是YES 那你就別CALL了 因為大部份時間你都會miss flop
如果Vilain很少3bet 那麼是個easy fold.你call flop call turn 去做這些決定時 都要根據你的對手.Vilain 是不是經常double barrel in a 3bet pot? Vilain 用什麼range 3bet? river你選擇了bluff
8c 是一張很好的牌去bluff
但你要認為你對手能夠fold AK如果你認為你要bluff river 才可以win the pot
why call flop call turn? and not check the river?
除非你的plan就是bluff the river when decide to call flop and turn.

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PokerDefender 2014-12-4 07:20 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]davidlam23[/i] 於 2014-12-4 03:38 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403952157&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我用3bet %, 如果Vilain經常3bet from SB/BB 你可以多點 4bet. 如果你認為Vilain never fold to 4bet 你便要收緊你4bet range 只用QQ+ AK去4bet去做每一個決定都要根據你對手玩法去調整.
open Q9s from BTN 100% st ... [/quote]
:smile_o12:夠詳細。
我當時想法:call flop因為vilain cbet 高,我想看看他之後做什麼。call turn 因為外面有很多draw,加上我有7個outs。shove river因為我認為vilain Ax,而borad complet a flush + possibility full house draw。

PokerDefender 2014-12-9 01:24 AM

When bluff goes wrong:smile_o16:

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em $0.05 Ante - 5 players
Vilain 33VP 16FP 30re-steal

[b]Hero (BTN): $50.59[/b]
[b]SB: $135.34[/b]
BB: $25.74
UTG: $34.38
CO: $25.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] ($0.60) Hero is BTN with 9[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] T[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img]
[i]2 folds[/i], [color=red]Hero raises to $0.65[/color], [color=red]SB raises to $2[/color], [i]1 fold[/i], Hero calls $1.35

[b]Flop:[/b] ($4.50) 4[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
[color=red]SB bets $3[/color], Hero calls $3

[b]Turn:[/b] ($10.50) 4[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
[color=red]SB bets $6.75[/color], Hero calls $6.75

[b]River:[/b] ($24.00) 6[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif[/img] [color=blue](2 players)[/color]
[color=red]SB bets $14[/color], [color=red]Hero raises to $38.79 all in[/color], SB calls $24.79

[b]Final Pot:[/b] $101.58
Hero shows 9[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] T[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
SB shows A[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif[/img] A[img]http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
SB wins $99.58
(Rake: $2.00)

[[i] 本帖最後由 PokerDefender 於 2014-12-9 01:35 AM 編輯 [/i]]

stussy_708 2014-12-11 03:11 PM

琴晚第一次打左7個鐘poker :L



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Matt_Bellamyyy 2014-12-11 05:46 PM

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PokerDefender 2014-12-11 07:22 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Matt_Bellamyyy[/i] 於 2014-12-11 05:46 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=404532739&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

what are you representing?:smile_41: [/quote]
I'm representing flush or full house.basically he can only beat me if i have Q pair or completely air.
IMO he made a very bad river play, if i was him, i probably just check/call or bet/fold

Problem is, why did he bet in such a wet board with "only" Ace pair?
he can only get value if vilain have exactly Q pair, and he is probably dead if vilain re-raise him.

這場只怪我高估了對手:smile_27:

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PokerDefender 2014-12-11 07:25 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]stussy_708[/i] 於 2014-12-11 03:11 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=404523184&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
琴晚第一次打左7個鐘poker :L



[img]http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/androidD.jpg[/img] [/quote]7個鐘?我好像玩過更耐:smile_30:

Matt_Bellamyyy 2014-12-11 11:04 PM

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PokerDefender 2014-12-14 04:39 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Matt_Bellamyyy[/i] 於 2014-12-11 11:04 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=404553683&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

i think the problem is it is very hard for you to have a 4 or 6(44/66 is unlikely because 2 4's/6's on board) given u called 3bet preflop. And flush is unlikely to raise river(double paired board).  ... [/quote]

"it is very hard for you to have a 4 or 6"  good point:smile_38:
i only can be 34, 45, 56, 67 or flush draw

PokerDefender 2014-12-24 10:44 AM

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Vilain VP:20 PFR:0 AF:2


[b]SB: $18.98 (38 bb)[/b]
[b]Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)[/b]
CO: $50.18 (100.4 bb)
BTN: $53.47 (106.9 bb)

[b]Preflop[/b]: Hero is BB with Q[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img]
[color=grey]CO folds[/color], [color=red]BTN raises to $1.25[/color], SB calls $1, [color=red]Hero raises to $5[/color], [color=grey]BTN folds[/color], SB calls $3.75

[b]Flop[/b]: ($11.25) 6[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] 9[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] 9[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/spade4.gif[/img][color=blue] (2 players)[/color]
SB checks, [color=red]Hero bets $6.50[/color], [color=red]SB raises to $13[/color], [color=red]Hero raises to $19.50[/color], SB calls $0.98 and is all-in

[b]Turn[/b]: ($39.21) A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img][color=blue] (2 players, 1 is all-in)[/color]
[b]River[/b]: ($39.21) 5[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img][color=blue] (2 players, 1 is all-in)[/color]

[b]Results:[/b] $39.21 pot ($1.96 rake)
Final Board: 6[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] 9[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] 9[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/spade4.gif[/img] A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] 5[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img]
SB showed Q[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] 9[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] and won $37.25 ($18.27 net)
Hero mucked Q[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img] and lost (-$18.98 net)


Maybe I should bet less on the flop, since the SPR is very low.
but what a bad call by vilain pre-flop... Q9s with 30% stacks...

PokerDefender 2014-12-24 11:28 AM

If vilain have JJ, i still have 25% win rate on the flop.
I'm calling 7.5$ to win 37$. giving me a   1 to 5 odd
so IMO i can never fold to his shove.

but... even if i bet a bit smaller on the flop, i still have to call his shove:smile_27:
maybe i should open squeeze bigger... for smthing like 7$

你地點睇lee 盤?

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PokerDefender 2014-12-25 07:26 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Matt_Bellamyyy[/i] 於 2014-12-25 02:13 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=405411031&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
check flop...villain not folding any pair [/quote]
i dont think checking is good, vilain miss most of the time here.

PokerDefender 2015-1-30 06:52 PM

Laugh die me !!!:smile_30:

$0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $247.44 (247.4 bb)
[b]Hero (SB): $34.50 (34.5 bb)[/b]
CO: $96.35 (96.4 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $189.02 (189 bb)
[b]BB: $454.71 (454.7 bb)[/b]

[b]Preflop[/b]: Hero is SB with 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/spade4.gif[/img] 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $3.50, MP folds, CO calls $3.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $34.50 and is all-in, BB calls $33.50, 2 folds

[b]Flop[/b]: ($76) 3[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img] 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] K[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 is all-in)
[b]Turn[/b]: ($76) K[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 is all-in)
[b]River[/b]: ($76) A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[b]Results:[/b] $76 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 3[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img] 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] K[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/heart4.gif[/img] K[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] A[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/img]
Hero showed 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/spade4.gif[/img] 7[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] and won $73 ($38.50 net)
BB showed 5[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] 3[img]http://www.cardrunners.com/pokertools/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/img] and lost (-$34.50 net)

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PokerDefender 2015-1-30 07:03 PM

他的英勇行為另我無法離開那張檯。
而我之後還撿了50bb左右

stussy_708 2015-1-30 07:16 PM

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53s :smile_o08:

ken2010 2015-2-1 09:39 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]PokerDefender[/i] 於 2014-12-3 02:23 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=403873998&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players -
Vilain: VP=16 PFR=14 Re-steal=18

BB: $52.18
UTG: $55.54
UTG+1: $29.43
MP: $21.25
CO: $32.88
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $57.16

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Her ... [/quote]

so, u dont afraid sb is a flush draw?



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tokiolkc 2015-2-1 10:33 AM

Why u keep showing your bad played



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PokerDefender 2015-2-2 06:10 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken2010[/i] 於 2015-2-1 09:39 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=408343249&ptid=24092314][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


so, u dont afraid sb is a flush draw?



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he's unlikely to have KXs with his re-steal range i guess
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