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ErvingCheng 2016-5-4 12:55 PM

If your client does not respect you as auditor or CPA, then you should think about the future.  Such client will pay you less fees, less documents, more excuses, ... particularly the Taiwan clients.  I will do the same way to let the client go to other firm. Being a CPA, you are a professional man (don't compare with Sampan guys).  I will say tomorrow will be better and get a new valuable client.

rocheung113 2016-5-7 02:03 PM

樓主不要氣餒, 繼續努力。
期待你的分享!



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稅務小子 2016-5-16 10:34 AM

BVI修例 加強離岸公司披露
須登記董事資料 打擊洗黑錢
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■全球打擊洗黑錢,英屬處女群島今年修例,離岸公司須向當地公司註冊處登記董事資料。 資料圖片
■全球打擊洗黑錢,英屬處女群島今年修例,離岸公司須向當地公司註冊處登記董事資料。 資料圖片
【本報訊】全球打擊洗黑錢,離岸公司註冊地受壓修例!英屬處女群島(BVI)今年修例,公司須向當地公司註冊處登記董事資料。業界指新例將令離岸公司較易在銀行開戶口,惟預期各離岸註冊地披露規例將越見嚴謹,避稅天堂買少見少。
記者:黃翹恩 周家誠

相對在本國在岸註冊,只要在外地註冊公司避稅,或尋求靈活股權架構,即可稱為離岸公司。熱門註冊地之一BVI,今年起分兩階段實施反洗錢新例,1月起新公司須將最後實益人向為註冊中介(如律師、會計師)備案;4月起須向BVI公司註冊處登記董事資料,供稅局等認可的監管機機隨時查閱。

明年全面生效
現存BVI公司則有一年寬限期,即明年才全面生效,不過公眾依然無法直接查閱資料。有不願具名的離岸公司註冊代理指出,目前部份銀行(如滙豐)得悉BVI董事需要備案後,已嘗試容許這些公司開立銀行戶口。
代理離岸公司註冊的會計師吳錦華指出,金融海嘯後,銀行「認識你的客戶(KYC)」要求大為提高,尤其大型銀行要求離岸公司開戶時提交商業計劃、客戶資料等,銀行亦對某類董事背景特別敏感(如農村背景、中年等),寧願「做少個客」,客戶只好轉戰三四線銀行,「有客試過要去到盤谷銀行!」現時銀行或信賴新例而放寬開戶,可見新例「有辣有唔辣」。
本報向兩間大型銀行查詢,渣打香港發言人不評論個別事件,該行對客戶盡職審查程序充足,處理新客開戶需根據既定程序及內部指引。滙豐發言人未有回應。

周光暉:No big deal
離岸註冊服務供應商OIL去年研究顯示,42%受訪業界認為2020年前將推行更嚴格的會計及監管標準,五年內難以緩和監管壓力。
吳錦華認同監管日嚴為國際趨勢,欲以離岸公司隱藏身份者「可以選擇嘅地方越來越少,今日唔駛(申報),遲啲都要。」但暫未見客戶因BVI新例而遷冊其他離岸地。
香港會計師公會前會長周光暉以多間BVI公司持有資產。他指股東、董事資料本來就需要向註冊代理申報,亦須授權銀行查閱資料,故新例相當於雙重存檔,「No big deal」。本報以顧客身份向部份代理查詢新例影響,盈大會計職員建議可開設「平啲又簡單啲」的塞舌爾群島公司,以避過申報。

source: [url]http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/financeestate/art/20160516/19613741[/url]

稅務小子 2016-5-16 10:35 AM

開設離岸公司助避稅
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■周光暉解釋離岸公司多用作稅務及商業安排,連帶保密身份。 陳善南攝
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■周光暉解釋離岸公司多用作稅務及商業安排,連帶保密身份。 陳善南攝

【本報訊】近年揭發權貴利用沒申報的離岸公司避稅,令公眾對離岸公司產生戒心。會計師公會前會長周光暉解釋,離岸公司多用作稅務及商業安排,連帶保密身份。隨着專業知識普及,普通市民開設離岸公司持有車、樓,行使避稅的「自然權利」。

稅局 聯交所可索取資料
周舉例,豪宅買賣流行使用離岸公司。雖首次買入物業時要付更多印花稅,但其後轉手時只需把公司股權轉讓,可避開額外印花稅(SSD)及買家印花稅(BSD)。他提醒稅局、聯交所等機構一直有權要求納稅人或註冊中介提供離岸公司資料,若拒遵從,可視為逃稅瞞稅,須承擔刑責。
創自1996年的BVI公司Power House Investment Ltd,在2013年「離岸解密」中曝光。在任董事包括工廈大王楊耀松長子楊國佳。
楊國佳表示,Power House從事即食麵貿易,離岸公司對富人而言是「身份象徵、有台型」。即使資料被公開、申報規例越見嚴謹,他亦不擔心:「拋個身出嚟做生意,全部係正當商人,有頭有面,你驚佢走私漏稅運軍火咩?

Source: [url]http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/financeestate/art/20160516/19613755[/url]

稅務小子 2016-5-16 10:36 AM

now, I just record the above news and will discuss these issues later.  BVI is a funny topic.

稅務小子 2016-5-25 11:47 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]ErvingCheng[/i] 於 2016-4-23 05:05 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=440039165&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
If the letter from the HKICPA is under registered mail, then this should be the Practice Review notice. If not, just normal letter.  The progress of PR is so quick now, and many firms and part time CP ... [/quote]

You are experienced in dealing with these issues. it is definitely an advantage!

稅務小子 2016-5-25 11:54 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]hkideaonline[/i] 於 2016-4-29 07:20 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=440414169&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
一日接一單新job! 己快搞吾店!

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好葡萄:P
有冇增加headcount?
或者點應付呢個問題?
請人唔難, 但請到一個合作到的人, 難

稅務小子 2016-5-25 11:55 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]rocheung113[/i] 於 2016-4-30 11:24 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=440443474&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如有興趣合作, 歡迎PM我, 互相交流。



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ching你做邊行的?

稅務小子 2016-5-25 12:02 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]ErvingCheng[/i] 於 2016-5-4 12:55 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=440674329&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
If your client does not respect you as auditor or CPA, then you should think about the future.  Such client will pay you less fees, less documents, more excuses, ... particularly the Taiwan clients.   ... [/quote]

I am prepared to share this experience.  After pressing the "review" button, i eventually disregard the post.  I now try to not remember those bad feeling.  Life is short, it is better to utilize my time doing the good thing.

Ching, mind if you could share your experience?:$

稅務小子 2016-5-25 12:08 PM

剛回到香港, 一口氣寫左幾個回應/分享.
不知道有沒有漏了回覆, 如有, 請多多見諒和提醒
各位行家, 支持你.
各位創業的朋友, 如成功的, 祝更上一層樓, 如果剛起步的, 不要放棄. 不要動搖自己的信心!

miss_bean 2016-5-25 01:05 PM

除左朋友介紹之外, 樓主多唔多cold call搵客? 成功率大約幾多?

ErvingCheng 2016-5-25 03:43 PM

My experience is that one of my big clients has had the hot temper, and he liked to argue or even scold me and my staffs.  That means he will not respect us as auditor or CPA.  Then, I have no choice to let him to change other auditor.  Even I lost such big client, and I try hard to look for new client.  Next year, I got a referral case from a client's secretary, then such new client can get over $100,000 fees. This year I get another referral case, and the new client can get over $150,000 fees.  Therefore, I can have more time to look for more valuable clients, compared to use up the time to deal with the troublesome clients.

ErvingCheng 2016-5-25 03:49 PM

Cold call client will be about 99% failure because they only concern about the fee. Also, these clients will not pay you easily, or you are so hard to receive money from them.

rocheung113 2016-5-26 01:13 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]稅務小子[/i] 於 2016-5-25 11:55 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=441841578&ptid=24716632][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


ching你做邊行的? [/quote]


I am doing bookeep, taxation, company registration and Co Sect for my own clients. Now, I want to expand my business.

In addition, I also provide the business insurance and MPF for my corporate clients.



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稅務小子 2016-5-28 11:04 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]ErvingCheng[/i] 於 2016-5-25 03:43 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=441852898&ptid=24716632][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
My experience is that one of my big clients has had the hot temper, and he liked to argue or even scold me and my staffs.  That means he will not respect us as auditor or CPA.  Then, I have no choice  ... [/quote] ching, I admire you!

稅務小子 2016-5-28 11:08 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]miss_bean[/i] 於 2016-5-25 01:05 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=441845288&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
除左朋友介紹之外, 樓主多唔多cold call搵客? 成功率大約幾多? [/quote]

我沒有做cold call的. 樓上ching同我想法一樣, cold call只會找到一些只向錢看的customer (not client), 這會增加我風險, 而收入不會成正比的.

稅務小子 2016-5-28 11:13 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]rocheung113[/i] 於 2016-5-26 01:13 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=441883174&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

I am doing bookeep, taxation, company registration and Co Sect for my own clients. Now, I want to expand my business.

In addition, I also provide the business insurance and MPF for my corporate cl ... [/quote]

add oil ching! wish you every success.

I mainly focus on taxation, international tax, transfer pricing etc and audit.

mind if you could share more about your insurance & mpf services?  it is rather new to me.  What is your strength when you provide such services?

6mastery 2016-5-29 10:28 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimjim689[/i] 於 2015-9-9 04:32 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=425343951&ptid=24716632][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
師兄唔係潑你冷水,會計系咁多個專業之中最cheap嘅。
如果你諗住安穩過一世,都OK嘅 [/quote]


樓主主打tax, 就不是cheap了。



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6mastery 2016-5-29 10:36 AM

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朋友多咋



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朋友多也是實力



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ErvingCheng 2016-5-30 12:41 PM

Tax case will be expensive.  For example, this couple of years, I handled the investigation cases with my tax consultant, and the fees were over $200k.  Therefore, the tax service is much expensive than audit and bookkeeping.

稅務小子 2016-6-2 01:42 PM

剛做完一個stocktake, 出面好熱, 有十個熱

稅務小子 2016-6-3 03:19 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]稅務小子[/i] 於 2016-6-2 01:42 PM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=442279140&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
剛做完一個stocktake, 出面好熱, 有十個熱 [/quote]

記錄這個stocktake, 待日後再回顧
這次stocktake時間比較特別, 這個是special audit.  做Due diligence. 我受買方所托, 對賣方進行審查.  這公司有大量資產, 大都以成本入賬, 過了十多年後, 賬面值十分低.
這公司大部份收入都是投資收益, 與財務報表上所說的生產業務不太相符. 管理層支吾以對. 我也不好再問, 其實我估到發生什麼事.  

<等一年後再記錄詳情, 3 Jun 2016>

稅務小子 2016-6-3 03:30 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]稅務小子[/i] 於 2015-9-9 01:41 AM 發表 [url=http://finance.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=425340612&ptid=24716632][img]http://finance.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
呢個時勢, 好多都縮, 冇咁進取。 個個都擔心冬天會到。

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而家睇返, 再加上BEA 炒人, 唏噓.
我身邊大部份朋友都已經睇淡一年了, 現時他們已兩手準備.  以前一個月15萬租一個月, 現時8萬可以租到, 有部份進取的, 要求大業主, 15萬租兩間舖俾佢.
另一邊即做國內/外國生意, 基本上放棄香港市場.
現時民生食/用品做得唔錯, 有部份更加價.

ErvingCheng 2016-6-3 04:52 PM

But, the rental of commercial buildings in Wanchai, Central, Sheung Wan, Sai Ying Pun, ...keep going up and up, or 5% increase this couple of months.  Also, the salary of audit junior in a local firm is increased to over $10,000 pm.  I think many firms will cut costs soon.

稅務小子 2016-6-4 08:55 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]ErvingCheng[/i] 於 2016-5-30 12:41 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=442114317&ptid=24716632][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Tax case will be expensive.  For example, this couple of years, I handled the investigation cases with my tax consultant, and the fees were over $200k.  Therefore, the tax service is much expensive th ... [/quote]

it is very true. Dealing with tax issues requires
not only in depth knowledge of tax implications but also thorough understanding of accounting standards.

稅務小子 2016-6-4 09:12 AM

納稅人虛報個人進修開支及認可慈善捐款被判入獄獲緩刑及罰款

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  一名納稅人於四月二十七日在觀塘裁判法院被裁定在七份報稅表內作出虛假陳述,蓄意意圖逃繳薪俸稅罪名成立,被還押二十一天後,今日(五月十八日)被判入獄六個月,緩刑兩年及罰款60,000元(每項控罪罰款5,000元)。

  現年三十九歲的被告,是一名銀行經理,她承認十二項蓄意意圖逃稅控罪,在二零零五/零六至二零一一/一二課稅年度的報稅表內,就申索扣除個人進修開支及認可慈善捐款方面,作出虛假的陳述,觸犯《稅務條例》(第112章)第82條第(1)(c)款。

  案情透露,被告在她二零零五/零六及二零零六/零七課稅年度的報稅表內,申索扣除的個人進修開支金額為每年40,000元,而二零零七/零八至二零一零/一一年度的申索金額為每年60,000元。被告在六個課稅年度申索扣除的個人進修開支合共320,000元。此外,被告亦在二零零六/零七至二零一一/一二課稅年度申索扣除認可慈善捐款合共58,000元。兩項申索扣除的總額為378,000元。

  稅務局經調查發現,被告未能提供足夠的詳情或證據以證明她所申索扣除的個人進修開支及認可慈善捐款。稅務局其後查悉被告於二零零九/一零課稅年度只曾向一間慈善團體捐款200元。被告在七個年度虛報的扣除總額達377,800元,逃繳稅款合共66,426元。

  《稅務條例》規定,就訂明課程所支付的個人進修開支,或指明的教育提供者或協會主辦的考試所支付的考試費,及捐贈給根據《稅務條例》第88條獲豁免繳稅的屬公共性質的慈善機構或慈善信託作慈善用途的款項,或捐贈給政府作慈善用途的款項可獲稅務寬減。有關申請扣除的證明文件須保存七年(即由有關課稅年度完結起計六年)。稅務局會對稅項扣除的申索進行抽查,並會要求納稅人提交證明文件以供審核。

  稅務局發言人提醒納稅人,《稅務條例》訂明逃稅是刑事罪行。一經定罪,每項控罪最高刑罰為入獄三年和罰款五萬元,另加一筆相等於少徵收稅款三倍的罰款。

Source:政府新聞處

又一單. 雖然IRD要處理大量工作, 但稅務局亦加大力審查納稅人的資料.

遲小小我分享香港打造財資中心而修改的有關稅例.

ErvingCheng 2016-6-6 12:42 PM

Section 20 is a hot topic for the investment companies this couple of years, and many these investment companies need to pay lots of taxes.  This is a good opportunity to get a big tax case, but the case is handled by Unit 4.  Even the DIPN 43 (Revised) was issued in May 2016, many investment companies may not get the benefits.

天下無彊 2016-6-6 12:47 PM

好多CPA收客二千幾蚊一年審數, 呢行幾難做



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ErvingCheng 2016-6-6 02:12 PM

The market price for a dormant company is $5,000.  The lowest fee is made by the Sampan and the part-time CPA.  Still, the HKICPA will do the Practice Review towards those part-time CPAs, and most of them will give up the PC afterward.  That is why the Sampan is so difficult to look for the part-time CPAs to sign the report.

天下無彊 2016-6-6 05:00 PM

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The market price for a dormant company is $5,000.  The lowest fee is made by the Sampan and the part-time CPA.  Still, the HKICPA will do the Practice Review towards those part-time CPAs, and most of  ... [/quote]


同我做開個間不是sampan,
但真係只收$2,500
定位不同, 佢[u]地做左好耐[/u]



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