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Pakfah 2015-6-26 08:52 AM

The selected candidates for the final round in piano are :

Lucas Debargue, FR (My favourite and clearly audience's favourite. Whether he wins depends on whether the jury is biased because Debargue is not from the traditional Russian school. May be if the jury wants to show their fairness, he will have the advantage)

Lukas Geniušas, RU, LT (a product of Russian school of music. Very traditional Russian playing and in my opinion, though not my cup of tea, can be likely winner)

Daniel Kharitonov, RU (apart from his age of 16 years old, don't see why he gets through at the expense of my other favourite Medvedev (may be he screwed up his Mozart concerto which I did not hear yet). Nothing special nor inspiring from his playing. Biggest surprise)

George Li, US (very very good technique, may be the best. But his musicality and interpretation shows his young age of 19 years old. His teacher Russell Sherman follows the traditional Russian school heritage as well as Busoni school and is considered one of the Top piano teachers in the world. His previous students Hae-sun Paik and Christopher Taylor did very well in Tchaikovsky and Van Cliburn)

Dmitry Masleev, RU (Another Russian. He is very consistent and a very good all-rounder playing music of all genres. May be a black horse)

Sergey Redkin, RU (Russian and his interpretation of Baroque and classical music shows depth of musical understanding and his Mozart concerto was great (he wrote his own cadenza). However, I found his Prokofiev Sonata #8 too refined and calculated and lack the aggressiveness and fire in his playing. However, in each competition, a Baroque specialist usually gets into top 3 so I won't be surprised to see him do well in the overall competition)

My prediction of Top 3 (based on first two rounds performance):

Lucas Debargue, FR/ Lukas Geniušas, RU, LT (First or Second, Jury's decision)
George Li, US/ Sergey Redkin, RU (can be tied for third)

It was sad to see two of my favourites Medvedev and Tetzloff exiting the competition and I wish both of them best of luck in their career.

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symphonicdance 2015-6-26 10:17 AM

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After some intense days of performances, discover the selected candidates for the final round in violin, cello and piano categories and candidates selected for the 2nd round of the voice category.

... [/quote]Three Asian violinists can go to the final.  Too bad that Mayu Kishima (Japan) and Yoo Jin Jang (South Korean) stopped at 2nd round (can't have too many Asians in the final round :smile_44:).  However, great to see a Chinese (from Taiwan) progressed to the final.

The piano final is pretty much Russian dominated, only George Li from USA and Lucas Debargue from France.One of the three Mongolian singers also survived.  Two male singers from China progressed to Round 2.  Add Oil!

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lula135 2015-6-26 02:19 PM

到Final了, 要煲3晚violin

symphonicdance 2015-6-26 10:41 PM

Fw: We asked some of the brilliant pianists at the Tchaikovsky Competition to play for us

[url]http://www.classicfm.com/music-news/videos/tchaikovsky-competition-pianists/#5xgGlybBSXeTp4mI.97[/url]

symphonicdance 2015-6-26 10:44 PM

An observation on age of the pianists in Round 2.

The ages of the Six who advanced to the final:  16, 19, 23, 24, 24, 27 (Average: 22.167)
The ages of the Six who didn't:  23, 23, 26, 28, 30, 32 (Average: 27.000)

Pakfah 2015-6-27 08:37 AM

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An observation on age of the pianists in Round 2.

The ages of the Six who advanced to the final:  16, 19, 23, 24, 24, 27 (Average: 22.167)
The ages of the Six who didn't:  23, 23, 26, 28, 30, 32 ( ... [/quote]
Looks like Martin Engstrom, who works for DG (Deutsche Grammophon) and sits on piano competition jury, does not want to sign winner who is over 26/27 years old and promote him. If this is true, Masleev will only have an outside chance getting into Top 3 since he is the oldest finalist at 27 years old.

Pakfah 2015-6-27 08:43 AM

Clara-jumi Kang will definitely get into Top 3 as she beat Bomsori in every single violin competition since the Sendai competition in 2010. Having said that, I have to admit I don't know enough about violin playing to comment on the finalists' playing so far in the competition to predict who will be the likely winners.

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symphonicdance 2015-6-28 08:47 PM

今晚又嚟過。撐住,唔好咁快咁眼訓:smile_27:



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symphonicdance 2015-6-29 10:30 PM

Tonight...  Asian violinists!
[font=Arial][size=3]Bomsori Kim came to XV Tchai right after the recent Queen Elisabeth Violin Competition.  Tseng Yu-Chien got 5th in the QEVC in 2012.  Look forwarding to seeing their performances.
Bomsori Kim:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Violin Concerto in D major
Johannes Brahms. Violin Concerto in D major
Yu-Chien Tseng:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Violin Concerto in D major
Jean Sibelius. Violin Concerto in D minor


And France's Lukas Debargue and Russia's Lukas Geniusas (Tchai 1 followed by Rach 3, woah!) in piano competition.  So exciting!  [/size][/font]:loveliness: [font=Arial][size=3]Lucas Debargue:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Piano Concerto 1
Franz Liszt. Piano Concerto 2
Lukas Geniušas:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Piano Concerto 2
Sergei Rachmaninov. Piano Concerto 3[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=3] [/size][/font]:smile_42:
[font=Arial][size=3][/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=3] [/size][/font][font=Arial][size=3][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=3]Those interested in cello:[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=3]Alexander Buzlov:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Variations on a Rococo Theme
Antonin Dvorak. Cello Concerto in B minor
Seung Min Kang:
Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Variations on a Rococo Theme
Antonín Dvořák. Cello Concerto in B minor[/size][/font]

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Pakfah 2015-6-29 11:35 PM

A bit disappointed with Debargue's Liszt second piano concerto, very untidy and not in syn with the orchestra. Something went terribly wrong, may be nerve due to being favourite.

Debargue's Tchaikovsky first piano concerto first movement was much better, very lyrical but he in my opinion should take charge and lead the orchestra. He seemed to respect the orchestra too much and followed them. His second movement got better and his third was very idiosyncratic, very unique interpretation and mesmerising.
Now a close call between him and George Li to be winner.

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symphonicdance 2015-6-30 12:57 AM

Yes, Debargue didn't look happy after playing Liszt.

Pakfah 2015-6-30 01:49 AM

Fantastic Tchaikovsky second concerto by Geniusas. Frankly I don't like his style and think he might have done enough to win the competition if he does not screw up his Rach 3.

Pakfah 2015-6-30 02:11 AM

Geniusas' Rach 3 second movement was gorgeous, full of emotional swing and a dash of sadness. Very Russian old school. Very stoic and elegant playing, reminding me of Krystian Zimmerman.

Very contrasting style with George Li and Debargue. Think Geniusas nailed the first prize unless miracle happens tomorrow.

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Pakfah 2015-7-1 01:07 AM

Kharitonov just delivered a stunning performance of Tchaikovsky 1st and Liszt 1st. His playing was much much better than previous rounds and his Tchaikovsky first might be the best among all contestants so far.

Apart from Geniuses who stands out, George Li, Lucas Debargue and Daniel Kharotonov all have a chance to come second or third. Very close call.

Masleev playing now but I don't like his interpretation of Tchaikovsky first - tempo too slow and phrasing too delicate/feminine. I'll be surprised to see he and Redkin get into top 3.

RDX500 2015-7-2 12:41 AM

Clara-Jumi Kang is definitely better than Bomsori Kim



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symphonicdance 2015-7-2 01:02 AM

蒙古,中國,南韓男歌唱家。。。恭喜晒!



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symphonicdance 2015-7-2 01:23 AM

oh, clara and bomsori.... good effort and impressive performance in any case.  So are mayu and yoo jin jang.[url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/android][img=100,23]http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/androidD.jpg[/img][/url]

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symphonicdance 2015-7-2 01:24 AM

so close, yu-chien tseng... but what an achievement already! excellent![url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/android][img=100,23]http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/androidD.jpg[/img][/url]

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symphonicdance 2015-7-2 01:35 AM

George Li,叻叻……叻仔!

1st Masleev
2nd tie Li and Geniusas
3rd tie Kharitonov and Redkin
4th Debargue

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lula135 2015-7-2 01:52 AM

Violin今次無金獎, 唔知有無聽錯戰果:smile_41:
2 : Yu-Chien Tseng 台灣
3: Haik Kazayan      Russian
3. Pavel Milyukov    Russian
3. Alexandra Conunova      Moldovia
4. Clara-Jumi Kang            Germany/south Korea
5. Bomsori Kim         South Korea

Pakfah 2015-7-2 01:54 AM

Cannot believe Masleev won gold medal!! Apart from his pedigree (studied with Tatiana Nikolayeva, student of Goldenweiser and in same class as Rachmaninoff and Scriabin), personally I don't like his Tchaikovsky concerto #1 nor the Prokofiev #3 (which George Li played 10 times better!!)

What can I say? Tchaikovsky competition always full of scandal and conspiracy. Also cannot understand why Clara-Jumi Kang only got 5th prize in violin competition.

Now I can go to sleep.....

woo208 2015-7-2 02:11 AM

見 Clara-Jumi Kang 好似好失望,我也認為為可以三甲之內,個人喜歡第三名的俄國人,他的柴可夫演出非常好



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RDX500 2015-7-2 02:17 AM

一地眼鏡碎



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lula135 2015-7-2 02:22 AM

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見 Clara-Jumi Kang 好似好失望,我也認為為可以三甲之內,個人喜歡第三名的俄國人,他的柴可夫演出非常好



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最後出場的Haik Kazayan? 我都覺得非常好

Pakfah 2015-7-2 08:27 AM

It is sad that Yu-Chien Tseng only got Silver medal: further justify the bias at Tchaikovsky that if you are not Russian or your teacher is not from Old Russian School, at best you can only win Silver, never GOLD.

Another sad day full of controversy.

symphonicdance 2015-7-2 09:35 AM

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一地眼鏡碎

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Need to re-listen to Masleev, which I missed his final round.

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symphonicdance 2015-7-2 09:44 AM

Chopin Competition coming up in Autumn...  See if there're surprises...

woo208 2015-7-2 10:29 AM

yes, is him!

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最後出場的Haik Kazayan? 我都覺得非常好 [/quote]

Pakfah 2015-7-2 12:44 PM

AT THE TCHAIKOVSKY SHOWDOWN, IT’S NOT LUCAS VS LUKAS ANY MORE
July 1, 2015 by norman lebrecht

Our observer Marina Evreison Arshinova has been watching the third round of the piano competition with mounting excitement. In her expert view, there are now only two likely winners left in the pack. Here’s her midnight report at the end of the third round, ahead of the judges’ decision tonight.....

The third round of Tchaikovsky Competiton flourished a constellation of talents. The Big Hall of Moscow Conservatory was sold out for all the three days of the final and there was hardly room to breathe.
Sergey Redkin played first. There’s not too much to add about him. His second piano concerto by Prokofiev was definitely better than Tchaikovsky’s First. He seemed to be not charismatic enough for the music he played.
The performance of the second contestant, George Li, was sensational. He played Tchaikovsky First and Prokofiev Third with astonishing intensity, clarity and rhythm. His emotions were on the edge and virtuosity was beyond the edge of the conventional highest level of world class competitions performances. The audience reception was truly ecstatic, especially after Tchaikovsky. George seemed to be three heads higher than the others.

The next day brought the main intrigue of the Competition, namely, Lucas vs Lukas. The favourite of the previous rounds, French pianist Lucas Debargue played the second concerto of Liszt and the first of Tchaikovsky. Unfortunately, it became clear very soon that it’s only the second time in Debargue’s life he played with orchestra.
The first time was a few days ago, at the second round, when he created a small miracle, delivering Mozart’s 24th concerto with inimitable grace and elegance. The audience awaited another miracle, but it was not to be. Debargue lost his grip on first prize, but will remain in the hearts of those who heard him this summer in Moscow, for ever.
Lukas Geniusas had chosen for the final the 2nd Tchaikovsky concerto and mighty Rachmaninov 3rd. Unfortunately, for all his merits, he was unable to handle the tension of the occasion and had some slips that are incompatible to competition standard. Tears were in his eyes when he bade farewell to the audience.

In accordance with Bulgakov traditions, typically for Moscow, the night before the Piano Competition climax a fire broke out in the Moscow Conservatory.. There was quite strong smell of fire in the hall when Daniil Kharitonov entered into the stage to play two Firsts Concertos – by Tchaikovsky and Liszt.
Daniil Kharitonov is 16 years old, still a schoolboy. He demonstrated some qualities as a pianist and played almost withut flaws throughout all the rounds . He is a young, vigorous, accomplished talent who is in the running for the  highest prize.
Dmitry Masleev was the last participant to play. One can say only good things about him. The First Tchaikovsky was fine, but in Third’s Prokofiev he was bested by George Li.
On the final night, Valery Gergiev and Denis Matsuev turned out to watch the Russian candidates.
So,the die is cast. The Lucas vs Lukas contest has changed into Li vs Kharitonov. We’re anxiously waiting for results of this fantastic Piano Competition. Less than 24 hours to go.

"AND THE RESULT IS: MASLEEV WON"

Pakfah 2015-7-2 01:06 PM

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HK candidates did not do well in the past because Tchaikovsky piano winners were 力量形 and followed the traditional Russian music school heritage (Henrich Neuhaus/Gornostaeva; and Zverev/Golderweiser/Ginsburg's students) or the US Russian school (Safonov/Lhevinne; and Anton Rubinstein/Josef Hofmann's students).  

Van Cliburn studied with Lhevinne, whereas Barry Douglas, Berezovsky, Ayako Uehara, Denis Trifonov all studied with students of Neuhaus/Gornostaeva. Plenev and Matseuv on the other hand follow the Zverev/Golderweiser/Ginburg tradition. (FYI, Gornostaeva may not be well known in HK, but her students include Ivo Pogorelich, Sergei Babayan (teacher of Trifonov), Ayako Uehara, and Kohlodenko "gold medal winner of Van Cliburn")

The head of Tchaikovsky jury is Dorensky, a student of Ginsburg (Zverev's students included Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Siloti, Golderweiser, etc) and is considered the mainstream Russian school of music now. ... [/quote]
Masleev, gold medal winner, studied with Tatiana Nikolayeva (who in turn studied with Golderweiser - Zverev School). Nikolayeva's best known students now include Lugansky and Masleev.
Geniusas, silver medal winner (co-winner with George Li), studied with Gornostaeva (Neuhaus School), whose best known students now include Ayako Uehara, Kholodenko, Geniuses, Pogorelich and Babayan (Trifonov).

George Li is from the Busoni School (his teacher is Russell Sherman from New England Conversatory whose best known students are Hae-Sun Paik and Christopher Taylor). Sorry, George, despite your fantastic playing in the competition, you are from the wrong School to win the most prestigious prize in Russia.

For the next Tchaikovsky piano competition, by studying the teachers of the candidates, one can predict the gold and silver medal winners easily instead of spending numerous late nights listening and predicting who will be winners based on actual performance during the competition.
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