查看完整版本 : [WEC] 85th 24 Hours of Le Mans (14/6~18/6)

fongnick 2017-6-1 23:34

進入6月,又係黎到每年賽車界最大盛事24 Hours of Le Mans展開既時候[img]http://www.fiawec.com/ecm/assets/1/course/4514/affiche_portrait_24_heures_du_mans_2017_14c550.jpeg[/img] Toyota經歷完上年既慘劇之後,今年第一次派出3部重軍出擊,誓要復仇成功,攞返上年所失去既最後5分鐘.今年隨住Audi退出,Toyota對手只係剩低Porsche,而今年開季頭兩站都係由Toyota勝出,表現出強勁實力,牌面上睇Toyota好大機會可以爭取今年冠軍,不過一切都要問過Le Mans今年肯唔肯放俾第1個Le Mans冠軍Toyota. Porsche當然都唔會隨便送走佢地第19個冠軍,雖然頭兩站係Toyota勝出,但係Porsche喺入pit同埋各種策略上都表現得唔錯,所以最後成績只係僅輸Toyota,相信去到Le Mans都唔會差

Ferrari同Ford之間既恩怨情仇由50年前P組延續到今時今日GTE組,上年Ford首年回歸就已經贏到GTE冠軍;相反,用新車488參賽既Ferrari先有AF Corse 2部車出現問題退賽,最後只有Risi Competizione自己1部孤身作戰,最後屈居亞軍,相信Ferrari唔會就咁算數.當然Ford都唔會放過Ferrari,今年同上一次一樣分別以Ford USA同Ford UK兩隊車隊各2部車出戰,先以車海戰術獲得優勢.今年頭2站Ferrari同Ford平分秋色,相信Le Mans都係有得鬥.唔好唔記得GTE除左Ferrari同Ford之間既戰鬥,仲有Aston Martin, Corvette同Porsche 3間車廠做搞局者.Porsche今年換左新車,競爭力比上年明顯提升左,作為13年GTE組王者,有相當大機會介入Ferrari同Ford之間既戰爭.相比前3者Ferrari, Ford同Porsche係MR佈局,Aston Martin同Corvette處於較劣勢既FR佈局,唯有靠BoP挽回.Corvette同Ford由美國鬥到去歐洲,作為15年王者,當然想再次登上頒獎台最高點.Aston Martin除左08年贏到GT1組同埋14年GTE Am冠軍之後,已經冇贏過任何一個Le Mans冠軍,佢地想贏都要問過另外幾間車廠先得

LMP2今年改左例,車隊只可以喺4個底盤製造商之中選擇1個,再配搭賽會指定Gibson引擎.即使係改左例,但係Oreca繼續係最大集團,有超過半數,總共14部車係用Oreca 07做底,Ligier JS P217只係有Oreca 07一半既7部,Dallara只係有3部,Riley MK.30更加只係得1部.因為引擎同底盤有所限制,所以車隊實力會係重要一環.Rebellion由上年LMP1L轉陣黎LMP2,實力絕對唔需要懷疑,傳統勁隊G-Driver, Signatech Alpine, TDS等仍然相當有競爭力.中國車隊DC Racing由上年Signatech Alpine換左今年由Jota協助營運同埋更換車手陣容之後實力大增,贏到第1站Silverstone,但只係#38,另一部車#37表現同上年冇分別
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[b]Entry List[/b][img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_8H7HcU0AEcLdH.jpg[/img] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_8H7G9V0AA-spY.jpg[/img] 以上Entry List未係最新版,更動如下
#4 Bykolles James Rossiter要去日本幫Toyota Super GT果邊試車既關係黎唔到,由前Audi LMP1車手Marco Bonanomi代替,Toyota揀呢個時間去試車真係奇怪
#68 Ford Sebastien Bourdais由於喺早兩個星期Indy 500排位時撞車受傷關係,會由另外一個Indycar車手Tony Kanaan代替

[b]Spotter Guide[/b]
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[url=http://assets.lemans.org/explorer/pdf/courses/2017/24-heures-du-mans/spotter-guide-24-heures-du-mans-2017.pdf]http://assets.lemans.org/explorer/pdf/courses/2017/24-heures-du-mans/spotter-guide-24-heures-du-mans-2017.pdf[/url]
[url=http://www.spotterguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/17_LM24_v2_3.pdf]http://www.spotterguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/17_LM24_v2_3.pdf[/url]

[b]Timetable(香港時間)[/b][table][tr][td]Free Practice [/td][td]Wed 14th June - 22:00 [/td][/tr][tr][td]Qualifying 1[/td][td]Thu 15th June - 04:00[/td][/tr][tr][td]Qualifying 2[/td][td]Fri 16th June - 01:00[/td][/tr][tr][td]Qualifying 3[/td][td]Fri 16th June - 04:00[/td][/tr][tr][td]Warm-up[/td][td]Sat 17th June - 15:00[/td][/tr][tr][td]Race [/td][td]Sat 17th June - 21:00 [/td][/tr][/table]

[b]Teaser[/b]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzt2BjOXgz8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzt2BjOXgz8[/url]
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[b]Timing[/b]
[url=https://timing.71wytham.org.uk/s/wec]https://timing.71wytham.org.uk/s/wec[/url]
[url=http://www.fiawec.com/en/live]http://www.fiawec.com/en/live[/url]

[color=#FF0000][b]Live[/b][/color]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrM65PWsuAI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrM65PWsuAI[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanB6OOn1is&feature=youtu.be]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanB6OOn1is&feature=youtu.be[/url]

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avRrTAKu6TU&feature=youtu.be]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avRrTAKu6TU&feature=youtu.be[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKlv-ff5q0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKlv-ff5q0[/url]

[[i] 本帖最後由 fongnick 於 2017-6-18 05:37 AM 編輯 [/i]]

fongnick 2017-6-1 23:40

[b]4/6 Test Day[/b]

一如既往,喺正賽前兩個星期既星期日,即係今個星期日,6月4號,會有一次喺Le Mans試車,俾各車隊熟識賽道環境以及進行調校
試車會分為朝早同晏晝兩個時段,分別喺香港時間15:00同20:00開始,每次4個鐘

[b]Entry List[/b]
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[b]Timing[/b]
[url=https://timing.71wytham.org.uk/]https://timing.71wytham.org.uk/[/url]

[[i] 本帖最後由 fongnick 於 2017-6-4 03:23 PM 編輯 [/i]]

fongnick 2017-6-1 23:40

[b]Porsche 919 Hybrid (#1, #2)[/b]
[img]https://porschenewsroom.s3.amazonaws.com/porsche_newsroom/motorsport/2017-motorsport-saison/2017-wec/2017-919-hybrid/b-m17_0696_finejpg/8a29f26a-6ce6-4845-a4fe-9e50bc731455_teaser_720x406x2.jpg[/img]
Engine: 2.0L V4 Turbo (power: 500HP)

Hybrid Systems: Front-axle KERS + exhaust driven turbine – battery stored (power: 400HP)

Energy Retrieval class: 8MJ

[b]Toyota TS050 HYBRID (#7, #8, #9)[/b]
[img]http://toyotagazooracing.com/pages/contents/en/assets/images/wec/report/2017/01/p001.jpg[/img]
Engine: 2.4L V6 Twin turbo (power: 500PS)

Hybrid Systems: Twin-axle generated KERS - battery storage (power: 500PS)

Energy Retrieval class: 8MJ

ivan3031 2017-6-2 06:16

Support

DHKG001 2017-6-2 11:14

支持C兄 !

MPX889 2017-6-2 12:08

c hing上年唔係458,係已經用488。同埋我極度懷疑toyota係咪有心唔放james去賽le mans

DHKG001 2017-6-2 13:59

Le Mans 24 Test build-up photos download :



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[url=https://snaap.netvigator.com/album/servlet/main?act=web3_albumitems&parentid=1025512012]Le Mans 24 -2017 Test : #01[/url]

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fongnick 2017-6-2 15:30

[quote]原帖由 [i]MPX889[/i] 於 2017-6-2 12:08 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462294148&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
c hing上年唔係458,係已經用488。同埋我極度懷疑toyota係咪有心唔放james去賽le mans [/quote]


心諗488打左458:smile_35:
Toyota應該冇理由特登唔放人,似係一貴,平川同國本堉哂冇人試先逼佢去

DHKG001 2017-6-2 19:43

再次推下先 !

好過俾條PK5毛, 亂攪令人討厭 !

:smile_22:

DHKG001 2017-6-3 18:08

其實TEST DAY 有冇時間及LIVE ?

fongnick 2017-6-3 18:21

[quote]原帖由 [i]DHKG001[/i] 於 2017-6-3 06:08 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462361163&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實TEST DAY 有冇時間及LIVE ? [/quote]
2樓有講到,Test Day分兩個時段香港時間15:00同20:00開始,每次4個鐘
冇Live Stream,只有Timing

[[i] 本帖最後由 fongnick 於 2017-6-4 03:22 PM 編輯 [/i]]

DHKG001 2017-6-4 08:58

24 Heures du Mans 2017 - Hard fight between Toyota and Porsche ?
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAVLqAmuoYc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAVLqAmuoYc[/url]

DHKG001 2017-6-4 09:03

24 Heures du Mans 2017 - LM P1 class entry list
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlQv14c7LA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlQv14c7LA[/url]


24 Heures du Mans 2017 - LM P2 class entry list
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXM-zcR5gt0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXM-zcR5gt0[/url]


24 Heures du Mans 2017 - LM-GTE Pro class entry list
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOR6Of5PWyY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOR6Of5PWyY[/url]


24 Heures du Mans 2017 - LM GTEAm class entry list
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKR2Z1fieY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKR2Z1fieY[/url]

DHKG001 2017-6-4 09:37

[img]http://www.lemans.org/media/cache/media_l_w/assets/fileuploads/59/32/5932d70151cf2.jpg[/img]

昨天拍攝例行的的大合照, 今天才正式開始試車.

[img]http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/wp-content/uploads/galleries/journee-test-samedi/Samedi_105.jpg[/img]

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[url=https://snaap.netvigator.com/album/servlet/main?act=web3_albumitems&parentid=1025512012]Le Mans 24 -2017 Test : #01[/url]

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ivan3031 2017-6-4 15:11

Live  Text
[url]http://www.lemans.org/en/page/TimelineKeynote/follow-the-24-hours-of-le-mans-test-day/20[/url]

fongnick 2017-6-4 20:28

第一次試車結束
時間
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBeQEuRXcAARl6M.jpg[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBeQEuRXoAEPBPO.jpg[/img]
#8,#7同#9三部Toyota包辦頭3,#1同#2兩部Porsche時間好接近,都係慢頭車#8 Toyota 2.3秒左右

LMP2由#35 Signatech Alpine做出3:29.809最快時間,係唯一一個做到3:30以內,呢個時間已經比上年LMP2 pole個時間快左6.8秒.第2,3分別係#13 Rebellion同#40 GRAFF.另外頭13全部都係Oreca 07, Ligier P217同Daralla P217已經冇得打,Riley MK.30更加係排最後

GTE-Pro以#63 Corvette做得最快,#91 Porcshe同#64 Corvette分別係第2,3.究竟係Corvette返生定係其他車廠留力仍然有待觀察

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBeaN9hUQAAcVSF.jpg:large[/img]
喺Top speed方面,LMP2,特別係Daralla,做得好快,比LMP1H快唔少,今年LMP1可能會喺大直路度搞唔掂LMP2

amsnow 2017-6-4 20:52

啲圈速真係恐怖,上年#2 qualifying 1時間都係3:19.733,而家test day #7 ts050 下午session已經做到3:18.132...

fongnick 2017-6-4 21:20

[quote]原帖由 [i]amsnow[/i] 於 2017-6-4 08:52 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462425715&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
啲圈速真係恐怖,上年#2 qualifying 1時間都係3:19.733,而家test day #7 ts050 下午session已經做到3:18.132... [/quote]
說好的Le Mans慢4秒呢:smile_38:

另外,#8 Toyota Buemi做緊race simulation既時候,都可以做到3:20既圈速,都好誇張

ivan3031 2017-6-4 22:03

今次Porsche 速度同可靠性都比 Toyota 差

cardreadermp3 2017-6-5 01:32

下年有乜車廠玩P1     ?

fongnick 2017-6-5 02:04

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBfS7e9XUAAm_7n.jpg[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBfS7e8XYAAxy21.jpg[/img]

全日試車完,最快圈速#7 Toyota由小林做出3:18.132.第2係#8 Toyota,做出1:19.290.第3係#9 Toyota,慢頭車隊友3.3秒.#2 Porsche緊隨其後,只係慢多唔夠0.06秒排第4,至於#1 Porsche就慢頭車接近4秒

#4 ByKolles速度有明顯改善,最終做出第7快時間,只係慢過最快既LMP2 #35 Signatech Alpine.LMP2第2同第3分別係#24 Manor同#37 DC Racing. Oreca 07繼續霸佔頭13

GTE-Pro #64 Corvette做得最快,另外2部#91同#92 Porsche慢少少,另一部Corvette #63再慢多少少.2部Aston Martin比3部Ferrari快少少.4部Ford最慢

fongnick 2017-6-5 02:07

[quote]原帖由 [i]cardreadermp3[/i] 於 2017-6-5 01:32 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462441806&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
下年有乜車廠玩P1     ? [/quote]
有車廠加入亦都冇車廠走人

ivan3031 2017-6-5 19:07

[url]http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/seidl-porsche-toyotas-test-day-speed-was-impressive/[/url]

Seidl (Porsche): Toyota’s Test Day Speed Was “Impressive”

Porsche LMP1 team principal Andreas Seidl has admitted that Toyota’s pace at the Le Mans Test Day was “impressive” with the Japanese manufacturer appearing to hold the upper hand heading into the 24 Hours of Le Mans later this month.

The three Toyota TS050 Hybrids locked out the top of the time charts in Sunday’s test, with Kamui Kobayshi’s pace-setting 3:18.132 lap more than 1.6 seconds quicker than the pole time set by Neel Jani last year.

More impressively, it marked a five-second improvement from Toyota’s performance at the test day in 2016, with Porsche only improving by seven-tenths year-to-year.

Earl Bamber ended the day as the quickest Porsche driver, but was nearly 3.5 seconds slower in the No. 2 Porsche 919 Hybrid, which was delayed due to a number of issues.

While the German manufacturer has stressed it did not go for a qualifying sim run on Sunday, it leaves questions over Porsche’s ultimate pace for the 24-hour, with Seidl admitting they could not have matched Toyota’s pace.

“We’ve had a mixed test day,” he said. “We were focusing on race setup and refrained from simulating qualifying.

“Toyota’s speed was impressive, we could not match that.

“In the coming days we will analyze today’s data and draw our conclusions to improve our cars’ performance.”

The eight-hour test saw the first face-off between the two LMP1 manufacturers in its full low-downforce configurations, despite both Toyota and Porsche running variants of the Le Mans-style aero packages in last month’s FIA World Endurance Championship round at Spa, which appeared to slightly favor the 919 Hybrid.

Both manufacturers primarily focused on tire durability runs, although the No. 2 Porsche lost nearly two hours due to the engine change after an oil leak from the morning session.

It came after an earlier delay after Brendon Hartley hit a cone, damaging the nose and floor of the car.

The cause of the oil leak is still under investigation, according to Seidl.

“It would have been nice to get more time to fine-tune our 919 but the team worked very hard to change the engine,” Timo Bernhard said.

Andre Lotterer added: “Compared to Toyota, we’re probably missing a little over a single flying lap, but then we didn’t attempt this ourselves.”

Whether Porsche’s race pace will be able to match Toyota’s lightning quick start to the month remains to be seen, with the two-time and defending race winners looking to make further improvements between now and race week.

“Although we didn’t achieve the mileage we wanted, we still [learned] important lessons for the race regarding tire choice and tire wear,” Seidl said.

“Now we go full throttle on the road to the Le Mans race week.”


Porsche 有冇留力?

DHKG001 2017-6-5 19:46

[quote]原帖由 [i]ivan3031[/i] 於 2017-6-5 07:07 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462478931&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
[url=http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/seidl-porsche-toyotas-test-day-speed-was-impressive/]http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/seidl-porsche-toyotas-test-day-speed-was-impressive/[/url]

Seidl (Porsche): Toyota’s Test Day Speed Was “Impressive”

Porsche LMP1 team principal Andreas Seidl has ... [/quote]


如果根據Porsche的試車圈數紀錄只有81/71圈, 睇來冇收埋實力,

應該係reliability上不及Toyota.

fongnick 2017-6-5 21:37

[quote]原帖由 [i]ivan3031[/i] 於 2017-6-5 07:07 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=462478931&ptid=26694414][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
[url=http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/seidl-porsche-toyotas-test-day-speed-was-impressive/]http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/seidl-porsche-toyotas-test-day-speed-was-impressive/[/url]

Seidl (Porsche): Toyota’s Test Day Speed Was “Impressive”

Porsche LMP1 team principal Andreas Seidl has ... [/quote]
LMP1唔同GTE有BoP,冇留力既必要.與其留力等對手摸唔清自己底細,不如盡力試車搵set-up好過

wonghy215 2017-6-6 11:50

LMP2
29號車
Dallara P217 (Rubens Barrichello / Frits van Eerd / Jan Lammers)
引擎:4.2L V8

[[i] 本帖最後由 wonghy215 於 2017-6-7 05:40 PM 編輯 [/i]]

derekyip88 2017-6-10 21:31

入黎支持師兄先…Good Post

DHKG001 2017-6-12 15:56

24 Heures du Mans 2017 – Les vérifications techniques et administratives en direct !
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPNFVT9eNY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPNFVT9eNY[/url]


LMP1 測車直播

ivan3031 2017-6-12 18:22

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24 Heures du Mans 2017 – Les vérifications techniques et administratives en direct !
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPNFVT9eNY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPNFVT9eNY[/url]


LMP1 測車直播 [/quote]
thank you

mycarrera 2017-6-13 18:22

NowTv有沒有直播?:loveliness:
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