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fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 01:15 PM

Dipabrsm

我想講我己經係第三次考dipabrsm.
第一次fail recital and quick study
第二次fail quick study
今次又再fail quick study
有無人有相似嘅經歷啊,我宜家點算好?
我可否直考ltcl就算無atcl or dipabrsm嘅成績

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 01:26 PM

利申: 我考八級有distiction
無想過會變成咁。

DanceR-__-' 2017-12-1 01:48 PM

U can go striaghtly to LTCL
八級同diploma要求差天共地

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 01:49 PM

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U can go striaghtly to LTCL
八級同diploma要求差天共地 [/quote]

我是否不應再用時間考dipabrsm?

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 02:10 PM

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我想講我己經係第三次考dipabrsm.
第一次fail recital and quick study
第二次fail quick study
今次又再fail quick study
有無人有相似嘅經歷啊,我宜家點算好?
我可否直考ltcl就算無atcl or dipabrsm嘅成績 [/quote]
So sorry to hear about the failures.

I took DipABRSM on two instruments and passed the quick study on both.

May I ask what mark did you get for your quick study and what instrument did you play for the exam? I have many ideas on how to improve sight reading skills, but mostly on single-line instruments.

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 02:14 PM

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利申: 我考八級有distiction
無想過會變成咁。 [/quote]
There is a huge gap between Grade 8 and DipABRSM.  My friend passed Grade 8 with distinction in 1992 and failed the Advanced Certificate (precursor to the DipABRSM) the following year.

What mark did you get for your Grade 8 sightreading?  One may fail sight reading and still get a distinction on Grade 8 ...

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 02:27 PM

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There is a huge gap between Grade 8 and DipABRSM.  My friend passed Grade 8 with distinction in 1992 and failed the Advanced Certificate (precursor to the DipABRSM) the following year.

What mark did ... [/quote]

我考八級嘅時候,quick study 都係fail. 我在dipabrsm第一次quick study 2 分,第二次4分,第三次3分
唔計quick study, 我有41分in total

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 02:27 PM

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So sorry to hear about the failures.

I took DipABRSM on two instruments and passed the quick study on both.

May I ask what mark did you get for your quick study and what instrument did you play for ... [/quote]

利申: 我考鋼琴

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 02:28 PM

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我考八級嘅時候,quick study 都係fail. 我在dipabrsm第一次quick study 2 分,第二次4分,第三次3分
唔計quick study, 我有41分in total [/quote]
If you failed G8 sight reading, there is simply no way you can pass DipABRSM quick study unless you make a huge improvement in your sight reading skills

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 02:30 PM

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我考八級嘅時候,quick study 都係fail. 我在dipabrsm第一次quick study 2 分,第二次4分,第三次3分
唔計quick study, 我有41分in total [/quote]

其實我已經合格,不過dipabrsm規定所有parts一定要合格

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 02:31 PM

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If you failed G8 sight reading, there is simply no way you can pass DipABRSM quick study unless you make a huge improvement in your sight reading skills [/quote]

咁點算啊 😭😭

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 02:42 PM

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咁點算啊 😭😭 [/quote]
Do you have a teacher who can help you improve your sight reading?

Just to give you some reference using my personal data:

Oboe sightreading
G8 20/21
DipABRSM 10/15

Alto recorder sight reading
G8 16/21
DipABRSM 6/15

So a near-perfect mark on G8 translated to an almost-distinction for DipABRSM, and a high pass on G8 turned into a bare pass on DipABRSM.

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fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 03:00 PM

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Do you have a teacher who can help you improve your sight reading?

Just to give you some reference using my personal data:

Oboe sightreading
G8 20/21
DipABRSM 10/15

Alto recorder sight reading
G8  ... [/quote]

咁我是否應直接考ltcl算?

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 03:15 PM

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咁我是否應直接考ltcl算? [/quote]
It depends on what you want to achieve.  Do you want to become a decent pianist?  If so, get a teacher who can improve your sight reading.  You need that skill anyway, regardless if you retake your DipABRSM.

If you just want to get a cert, you can go for LTCL.

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 03:21 PM

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It depends on what you want to achieve.  Do you want to become a decent pianist?  If so, get a teacher who can improve your sight reading.  You need that skill anyway, regardless if you retake your D ... [/quote]

其實,我現在修讀dse music, 希望可以在大學主修music, 做鋼琴家

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 03:46 PM

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其實,我現在修讀dse music, 希望可以在大學主修music, 做鋼琴家 [/quote]
Then you definitely need to improve your sight reading.

A pianist who cannot sight read really doesn’t cut it professionally.  You need to be able to accompany and teach a wide variety of repertoire, many of which you will need to sight read.

With proper training your sight reading will improve.  I spend time on sight reading on every lesson for most of my private students.

melodiess 2017-12-1 05:35 PM

至少已經其他部分合格 你現在可以單一不斷重考quick study  加油!

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 05:49 PM

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至少已經其他部分合格 你現在可以單一不斷重考quick study  加油! [/quote]
Maybe retake it enough times that you will played through your sight reading test in a previous retake!

jeffreylam98 2017-12-1 06:35 PM

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U can go striaghtly to LTCL
八級同diploma要求差天共地 [/quote]
Yes, G8 同 AT D歌難度係差唔多。但要求差好遠eg, 8 級彈到 Lur Lur 地仲話可以 110分左右,甩少少都 10幾
如果 AT 有 lur/甩,基本上都不會合格。我記得考AT個時,我首 P&F 成5分鐘,錯2個音佢都批評

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 08:02 PM

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至少已經其他部分合格 你現在可以單一不斷重考quick study  加油! [/quote]

問題係$ 考整個dipabrsm與考一part 是同價。

父母上次說如我再fail, 就不會讓我再考

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 08:06 PM

當年我好勁gah, 我k3 考一級merit, p.1 考3 級distinction,p.3 考5級merit兼考5級樂理, p.5 考八級distinction。到中二先考dipabrsm, fail 3 次,宜家f.4 啦,阿媽話我點會考咁耐都未考到,有問題!

fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-1 08:08 PM

我宜家覺得死咗去好過啦!

moneytom 2017-12-1 09:09 PM

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我宜家覺得死咗去好過啦! [/quote]

要先處理左問題先考試

你的問題明顯sight reading 弱
先練好sight reading先啦

搵D簡單的歌,每日一兩首,迫自己用最少次數練好

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 09:22 PM

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問題係$ 考整個dipabrsm與考一part 是同價。

父母上次說如我再fail, 就不會讓我再考 [/quote]
Is that really the case?  I thought a partial re-sit cost less ...

DanceR-__-' 2017-12-1 10:22 PM

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我考八級嘅時候,quick study 都係fail. 我在dipabrsm第一次quick study 2 分,第二次4分,第三次3分
唔計quick study, 我有41分in total [/quote]
我八級sight reading 19分,我覺得我都冇可能pass到佢quick study個要求
你八級sight reading 唔合格,我勸你疊埋心水去考trinity

DanceR-__-' 2017-12-1 10:25 PM

另外你其他兩parts共41分,我勸你考左AT先,一陣你肥左LT,你點同屋企人交代?

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-1 11:13 PM

其實樓主你老師有冇跟你講過你視譜能力如果?

2/15 無可能考試之前唔知有問題

melodiess 2017-12-2 01:54 AM

英國皇家音樂學院既文憑試出名難考,尤其是鋼琴,最難recital都合格左,而你重咁年輕,重有大把時間。我年紀大過你都肥過皇家文憑,跟住轉去去考聖三,再之後先再考返皇家。 我今年小提琴AT都肥左啦

我覺得你搵個老師(要求)專教Quick study,然後補考好過

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fb63583aab1d21 2017-12-2 02:12 PM

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英國皇家音樂學院既文憑試出名難考,尤其是鋼琴,最難recital都合格左,而你重咁年輕,重有大把時間。我年紀大過你都肥過皇家文憑,跟住轉去去考聖三,再之後先再考返皇家。 我今年小提琴AT都肥左啦

我覺得你搵個老 ... [/quote]

我老師是上海人,她說上海老師是不會教aural 和quick study, 他們只教recital. 所以我找老師的學生教我aural 和quick study. Aural 也past 唯是quick study.

現在我正在做教會司琴,也透過聖樂委員會正式學管風琴,風琴嘅琴譜比鋼琴難百倍,希望透過幾個月上管風琴課,可訓練我的視譜能力。

還有,我是學校合唱團司琴,做司琴要很強嘅視譜能力,希望做幾個月司琴可以有幫助。

父母讓再考,計過數,只剩下兩次機會,我報了4, 5 月 和8 月嘅考試,希望我可以合格。

oboe_bassoon_hk 2017-12-2 02:49 PM

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我老師是上海人,她說上海老師是不會教aural 和quick study, 他們只教recital. 所以我找老師的學生教我aural 和quick study. Aural 也past 唯是quick study.

現在我正在做教會司琴,也透過聖樂委員會正式學管 ... [/quote]
Why don’t you wait until your sight reading improves noticeably before you re-enter the exam?  What is the hurry?

I find it funny that (according to your teacher) teachers from Shanghai are unable (or unwilling?) to teach sight reading.
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