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藍G正乞衣 2018-6-14 09:13 PM

Devops engineer 其實係做咩

Devops engineer 其實係做咩

283596435 2018-6-14 09:36 PM

通常係寫曲同support中間,但冇絕對定義,睇job description。

藍G正乞衣 2018-6-14 10:05 PM

明白

Andylaubobby 2018-6-15 02:58 AM

see: [url=http://computer.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=26057692&page=1#pid449003640]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=26057692&page=1#pid449003640[/url]

If you apply for DevOps position, make sure you ask for more salary. You get pay more than the same level programmer, sysadmin and DBA.

If they put it in the job ad, they know that they need to pay a premium salary.

[[i] 本帖最後由 Andylaubobby 於 2018-6-15 03:26 AM 編輯 [/i]]

藍G正乞衣 2018-6-15 10:30 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Andylaubobby[/i] 於 2018-6-15 02:58 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482042348&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
see: [url]http://computer.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=26057692&page=1#pid449003640[/url]

If you apply for DevOps position, make sure you ask for more salary. You get pay more than the same level program ... [/quote]

簡單來説,devops engineer 就係識打 code system admin. Can i say that?

Andylaubobby 2018-6-16 05:11 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]藍G正乞衣[/i] 於 2018-6-15 10:30 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482051534&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

簡單來説,devops engineer 就係識打 code system admin. Can i say that? [/quote]
Usually DevOps background is full stack programmer or generalist programmer. However, if the system admin is very good at coding, he can also go the DevOps path.

沙田真空的馬 2018-6-16 11:56 AM

喺香港嘅可以理解為識coding嘅IT打雜職位

漆哥 2018-6-16 05:52 PM

DevOps Programmer 做咩其實類似以前 System Programmer 位置,System Programmer 係咩可能好多人未見過,咁即係做咩?

Maintain一個Environment,有好多script要做,好多batch要maintain,特別如果要做System Integration,行SOA,條ESB邊個去管理,Dev個docker邊個起?入面script邊個寫?source邊個去做control,program過場邊個去執行,唔止OTS要落Patch,Inhouse System都要落Patch,邊個執行?Dev Team俾個Patch來,要貼environment parameter行,邊個做?當中還有好多Monitoring script, health check, heart-beat test既script,煩到你嘔。

Yes,以上一切都係Admin做,但,如果老板開始覺admin操作過於手動,對Admin既性格,或其容忍度及執行力有檢討既時候,就會問,寫Python可唔可以做以上事情?System Programmer會答,我可以為你效勞。

當然以上一切係本人老作,但差唔幾,Dev Team直接在AWS上GIT,行script由DEV過場UAT,同大老板取Approval Token,過場Production,中間一位Admin都唔駛call,唔駛入紙,唔駛申請!而當中用到既Automation Script,就係DevOps Engineer既工作。

小弟如果冇理解錯以上工序範圍既話,漆哥都應該兼職做了DevOps近十五年,而家做左Seafood,已唔多落手落腳,教緊D兄弟大方向,提及一個完整Dev Env係要D咩!我連個system點落Patch,都叫個DevOps Engine同我寫個介面出來完成佢。

[[i] 本帖最後由 漆哥 於 2018-6-16 05:59 PM 編輯 [/i]]

漆哥 2018-6-16 05:52 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Andylaubobby[/i] 於 2018-6-16 05:11 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482107215&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Usually DevOps background is full stack programmer or generalist programmer. However, if the system admin is very good at coding, he can also go the DevOps path. [/quote]

Agree

richardli008 2018-6-20 01:44 PM

如果懂超過以下個圖片超過五樣嘢都可以算夠資格入門做DevOps Engineer

singsingcat 2018-6-20 01:53 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]richardli008[/i] 於 2018-6-20 01:44 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482351439&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如果懂超過以下個圖片超過五樣嘢都可以算夠資格入門做DevOps Engineer [/quote]

是否只有中間果2,3層關事

smartboy123 2018-6-20 10:43 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]漆哥[/i] 於 2018-6-16 05:52 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482136416&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
DevOps Programmer 做咩其實類似以前 System Programmer 位置,System Programmer 係咩可能好多人未見過,咁即係做咩?

Maintain一個Environment,有好多script要做,好多batch要maintain,特別如果要做System Integration,行SOA,條ESB邊個去管理,Dev個docker邊個起?入面script ... [/quote]


聽落去好 tedious.唔係個個鐘意做

form5 2018-6-20 10:58 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]richardli008[/i] 於 2018-6-20 01:44 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482351439&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如果懂超過以下個圖片超過五樣嘢都可以算夠資格入門做DevOps Engineer [/quote]
Swarm ? 真係有人係個production 埸用?真的嗎?

jackiejaiau 2018-6-23 09:46 PM

認同 其實而家多左好多 CI/CD PIPELINE 軟件
你SET 一次 DEPLOYMENT PIPELINe,剩係禁一個制就自動DEPLOY 去TEST,一個制DEPLOY 去STAGE 一個制DEPLOY 去PRODUCTION SERVER 之類 如果係 WINDOWS 的話OCTOPUS DEPLOY 真係唔錯

jackiejaiau 2018-6-23 09:58 PM

係澳洲, DEVOPS 工作都係幫 DEV TEAM 減小 SDLC PIPELINe 時間 加快DELIVERY CODE 到 PRODUCTION ENV
自動化 CI/CD,INFRASTRUCTURE , KNOWLEDGE SHARING DEVOPS CULTURE , MONITORING /SCALABILITY
主要工作都睇間COMPANY 有幾大

漆哥 2018-6-24 09:00 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jackiejaiau[/i] 於 2018-6-23 09:58 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482549399&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
係澳洲, DEVOPS 工作都係幫 DEV TEAM 減小 SDLC PIPELINe 時間 加快DELIVERY CODE 到 PRODUCTION ENV
自動化 CI/CD,INFRASTRUCTURE , KNOWLEDGE SHARING DEVOPS CULTURE , MONITORING /SCALABILITY
主要工作都睇間COMPANY 有幾大 ... [/quote]

漆頭又學到野!

jackiejaiau 2018-6-24 09:25 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]漆哥[/i] 於 2018-6-24 09:00 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482569575&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


漆頭又學到野! [/quote]


大家交流下 :)

jackiejaiau 2018-6-24 09:27 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]richardli008[/i] 於 2018-6-20 01:44 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482351439&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如果懂超過以下個圖片超過五樣嘢都可以算夠資格入門做DevOps Engineer [/quote]


最好每個格仔都識一樣, 特別係 from source control 到 deployment...
補充一下,基本上 由CODE 到 SERVER Infras / Deploy /Monitor , DEVOPS 都要Take ownership

[[i] 本帖最後由 jackiejaiau 於 2018-6-24 10:38 AM 編輯 [/i]]

PacificIslander 2018-6-24 09:49 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jackiejaiau[/i] 於 2018-6-24 09:27 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482570322&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



最好每個格仔都識一樣, 特別係 from source control 到 deployment... [/quote]

師兄強力!做 in-house 嗎?

jackiejaiau 2018-6-24 10:24 AM

Yes, 係銀行做

通常AU 一般system admin (3-5 years exp) 大概60-80k aud 一年
Dev 大概 70-90k (3-5 years exp) 最好 C# / JAVA (不解釋為何 C#..... long story)

DevOps 一般都過 100k, 做多幾年 一定可以過120k - 140k
當然AU 交好重稅


題外話 GOOGLE 好早之前已經有類似DevOps role 但佢地自制左個叫 SRE.
而定多左AU COMPANY 請Site Reliability Engineering ( Ref [url=https://landing.google.com/sre/]https://landing.google.com/sre/[/url] ) 比較注重 Production systems 穩定性同效能
例如 Google Mail 有 Production issue, SRE team 可以有權講 呢個SERVICE 唔出得街 要SHUT DOWN 個SYSTEM 同 apply fix etc. 當然,唔係間間COMPANY 都可以咁做

[[i] 本帖最後由 jackiejaiau 於 2018-6-24 10:49 AM 編輯 [/i]]

jackiejaiau 2018-6-24 10:32 AM

FYI
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI_cAR75aRU&t=948s[/url]
19:16 pipeline
21:57 AWS CI/CD tools

Andylaubobby 2018-6-24 01:23 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]jackiejaiau[/i] 於 2018-6-24 09:27 AM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482570322&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
最好每個格仔都識一樣, 特別係 from source control 到 deployment...
補充一下,基本上 由CODE 到 SERVER Infras / Deploy /Monitor , DEVOPS 都要Take ownership [/quote]

Agree. If you have more time, you should know couple of them per type. Hence, you can compare which one is better and why? So when you become an architect, you can recommend the team which system to use.

jackiejaiau 2018-6-24 01:24 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Andylaubobby[/i] 於 2018-6-24 01:23 PM 發表 [url=http://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=482580961&ptid=27510038][img]http://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


Agree. If you have more time, you should know couple of them per type. Hence, you can compare which one is better and why? So when you become an architect, you can recommend the team which system  ... [/quote]


Totally agree
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