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食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-10 08:06 PM

香港遊戲業真係咁灰???

本人系一名中4學生,參與寫一隻game 甚至自己整一隻 game 一直系夢想。但香港嘅遊戲公司感覺唔多,系香港寫game 嘅事業係咪真係咁難行?會唔會出國讀大學,工作會好 d? 或者如果留港工作,識d 咩會好 d? (識 java, 自學 c language 中,對 proagramming 有極大興趣)
求指路,謝謝!!!
:')

漆哥 2019-5-10 10:07 PM

寫一隻遊戲其實唔難,小弟都試過,但遊戲可唔可以成為爆款,唔係你寫得有幾叻,唔係你有諗頭,也不是有創意就OK,除左Marketing,投入廣告燒錢,運氣天時地利,缺一不可

試問咁樣,有幾多間game house可捱得住三年冇錢賺?就連曾兄弟請咁多人,又唔係唔識寫Game法門,都未能有第二爆款,而一個GAME又只可賺幾年錢,就冇人記得,可想而知,係呢個產業生存有幾難!

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badman2024 2019-5-10 10:39 PM

香港係完全冇 software development industry, 出國啦!去美國

rhk100 2019-5-10 11:01 PM

唔使咁灰,大灣區,過條河去深圳南山科技園,找到 馬X騰, 問下佢食雞 or 王者的榮耀 須要 programmer or designer 。:smile_30:

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-10 11:19 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]rhk100[/i] 於 2019-5-10 11:01 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499132546&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔使咁灰,大灣區,過條河去深圳南山科技園,找到 馬X騰, 問下佢食雞 or 王者的榮耀 須要 programmer or designer 。:smile_30: [/quote]


咁有冇 d 咩建議我可以裝備自己?整遊戲 demo?

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-10 11:48 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]badman2024[/i] 於 2019-5-10 10:39 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499131376&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
香港係完全冇 software development industry, 出國啦!去美國 [/quote]


咁你會為咗事業放棄系香港嘅家人同朋友嗎🤔唔係冇 lum 過出國,但實在唔捨得身邊嘅人。如果系你你(地)會點揀

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-10 11:50 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]漆哥[/i] 於 2019-5-10 10:07 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499129669&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
寫一隻遊戲其實唔難,小弟都試過,但遊戲可唔可以成為爆款,唔係你寫得有幾叻,唔係你有諗頭,也不是有創意就OK,除左Marketing,投入廣告燒錢,運氣天時地利,缺一不可

試問咁樣,有幾多間game house可捱得住三年冇錢賺?就連曾兄弟請咁多人,又唔係唔識寫Game法門,都未能有第二爆款,而一個GAME又只可賺幾年錢,就冇人記得,可想而知,係呢個產業生存有幾難! ... [/quote]


但冇任何大公司嘅工作經驗就自己寫 game 會唔會好困難?係咪系公司做下野,吸收下經驗會好 d?

Andylaubobby 2019-5-10 11:56 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]食花生嘅小雞[/i] 於 2019-5-10 08:06 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499123910&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
本人系一名中4學生,參與寫一隻game 甚至自己整一隻 game 一直系夢想。但香港嘅遊戲公司感覺唔多,系香港寫game 嘅事業係咪真係咁難行?會唔會出國讀大學,工作會好 d? 或者如果留港工作,識d 咩會好 d? (識 java, 自學 c language 中,對 proagramming 有極大興趣)
求指路,謝謝!!!
:') ... [/quote]


漆哥is right. write a game is easy. write a good game is difficult. I think what you should do is: 1. learn unity now and start writing game ( for example: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPV2KyIb3jR4u5jX8za5iU1cqnQPmbzG0 ) 2. play more games and learn the game loop and how to make the game fun (  https://www.deconstructoroffun.com/blog/2018/2/27/u6ap146ff5rkmm7fj1qzuhggp395l4 ) 3. get  a university degree. build up your profilos. then get a job in a game company in China.

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 12:02 AM

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漆哥is right. write a game is easy. write a good game is difficult. I think what you should do is: 1. learn unity now and start writing game ( for example: [url]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPV2[/url] ... [/quote]


Thanks a lot for your advice!! May I ask a question. If your school life is so busy that you only get very limited time like 5 to 6 Hours per day to balance your academic score and self-learning schedule, How would u spend the time?

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Andylaubobby 2019-5-11 12:49 AM

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Thanks a lot for your advice!! May I ask a question. If your school life is so busy that you only get very limited time like 5 to 6 Hours per day to balance your academic score and self-learning sc ... [/quote]


this is a good question .. everybody has the same amount of time per day -  24 hours... so much to do and so less time.  my suggestion is do less on other stuffs ( sleep, eat, TV, dating, etc..) and allocate time for what you thing is important... like the other guy said.. you need 一團火 to drive yourself....

Andylaubobby 2019-5-11 12:53 AM

one more thing... after you spend couple years in a game company in China or US and learn how they do thing. you can come back to HK to start your own..  the good thing about software industry is that you can do it everywhere as long as you can find the right person to do it with. good luck.

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 12:58 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Andylaubobby[/i] 於 2019-5-11 12:53 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499137718&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
one more thing... after you spend couple years in a game company in China or US and learn how they do thing. you can come back to HK to start your own..  the good thing about software industry is that ... [/quote]


Can't be more grateful for your advice!! I hadn't thought in this way before. I can see it with a whole new perspective now! Thank you x)) I can feel my passion flow back as my fear fades away,lol

漆哥 2019-5-11 03:02 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]食花生嘅小雞[/i] 於 2019-5-10 11:50 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499135049&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
但冇任何大公司嘅工作經驗就自己寫 game 會唔會好困難?係咪系公司做下野,吸收下經驗會好 d? [/quote]

有人要跟大師父學藝,有人要入名門正教,有人武功無師自通,有人一身內功都唔識用,我唔知你咩人,但如果你見到好遠既高山,就話好困難,靠自己一定爬唔到云云,那就大錯特錯,因有passion既人唔會咁。

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無盡外圍的湯圓 2019-5-11 03:22 AM

I had CS degree, and didn't used it for 8+ years. Then I started to learn and develop Android application at home. Two years later, top tech company hired me. Now, I get invitations from other top companies and start-ups everyday, and making top 1% in Software Engineer industry.

It's always about how much you want to succeed and what are you willing to sacrifice. Your attitude determines your future.

Don't give me the "no time" crap. I was working full time during the 2 years, and I still managed to learn and build 8 hours at night everyday and even more hours during weekends and holidays. I also had a girlfriend, now my wife, at the time. If she couldn't fit my crazy schedule, she was free to leave.

How determined are you?

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無盡外圍的湯圓 2019-5-11 03:25 AM

The thing is that it makes so much sense to do it ASAP, why even bother to contemplate?

At worse, you still learn things useful.
Fuck the rest of world and just start building stuff. If you enjoy doing it, you will succeed.  The process is so simple, the only thing stopping you is yourself.  I am a living proof.

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Western_Sausage 2019-5-11 06:52 AM

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但冇任何大公司嘅工作經驗就自己寫 game 會唔會好困難?係咪系公司做下野,吸收下經驗會好 d? [/quote]
單憑一個人能力可以寫到嘅遊戲有限,大製作要有團隊

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 07:38 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]漆哥[/i] 於 2019-5-11 03:02 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499140394&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


有人要跟大師父學藝,有人要入名門正教,有人武功無師自通,有人一身內功都唔識用,我唔知你咩人,但如果你見到好遠既高山,就話好困難,靠自己一定爬唔到云云,那就大錯特錯,因有passion既人唔會咁。 ... [/quote]


嘛,對我來說遊戲需要嘅技術和知識跨越各個學科,例如藝術,數學,語文,而我自己系剛剛起步嘅階段,老實講會怕自己的熱誠中途燒盡,畢竟真係第一次咁中意一樣野,為咗遊戲製作,去掂我原本唔太中意嘅數學,到後來慢慢愛上,唔再怕數學同物理。以目前的狀態來講,我心裡系有一團熊熊烈火!! 即使艱難,我都會繼續學落去,不論自學又好,去上堂又好。只係由於學業繁忙,要兼顧兩邊,每日一落書台就瞓到死咗😂😂偶爾都會攰。

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 07:46 AM

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I had CS degree, and didn't used it for 8+ years. Then I started to learn and develop Android application at home. Two years later, top tech company hired me. Now, I get invitations from other top com ... [/quote]


That's really encouraging! I'm really inpressed by your passion about software developing. To be honest, I'm learning c for about two hours per night and I would read books about c whenever I get some spare time at school. I am not satisfied by  my pace of learning right now. I wish to balance my school life and learning while most of the time I get only around 7hours  after school n it usually takes me 3 to 4 hours to finish up all the studies and the piled up homework. I'm getting kind of tired after a few weeks of craziness. Did you have the feeling of tired after some time of learning and working nonstop? if so, how did you get back up?

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 07:50 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]無盡外圍的湯圓[/i] 於 2019-5-11 03:25 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499140605&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
The thing is that it makes so much sense to do it ASAP, why even bother to contemplate?

At worse, you still learn things useful.
Fuck the rest of world and just start building stuff. If you enjoy doi ... [/quote]


wow, I think you just got the point that I didn't notice. Really, I has been stopping myself and feeling the uncertainty these few days. Yep! I shouldn't think so much. Getting back to learning and hope I can finish up my c language in a month! Wish me good luck xP

無盡外圍的湯圓 2019-5-11 08:19 AM

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That's really encouraging! I'm really inpressed by your passion about software developing. To be honest, I'm learning c for about two hours per night and I would read books about c whenever I get s ... [/quote]


I think everybody's motivation is different.  For me, I focus on helping users and create the best user experience.

I felt empowered when I see my own creation running on a device, and imagining I can publish it to app store to be used by millions of people. I always like to do quick iterations so that I can see results quickly to keep myself motivated.

Writing a game requires so many different professions. If you don't have a good strategy on how to organize with, you would not have the motivation to complete it.  ex. create a simple background can take anywhere from hours to weeks. What's the minimal acceptable background?  If you like art more, then what is the least amount of code you can do so you can focus on art?
Some game does require art at all if the idea is fun and creative.  Some game is all about visual.  So what's your strategy?

Developing a strategy on how to have smaller and quicker wins is a skill. A skill that you would be proud to talk about with your future employers.  The journey will teach you lots of things, and they will be useful for your future.

PacificIslander 2019-5-11 09:10 AM

花生小雞板友,你中四就寫到甘好既英文,係咪讀名校,非常注重英文果D?


做遊戲浪費咗你啲英文。應該去做商業 IT。


等你大學做煙腸嗰陣,我請你。

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 09:18 AM

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I think everybody's motivation is different.  For me, I focus on helping users and create the best user experience.

I felt empowered when I see my own creation running on a device, and imagining I ... [/quote]


Yeah, I agree that sometimes when I went through what skill I will need for game developing, I feel discouraging. However, it's one of my motivation too. When I imagine I could tell others I learned as much skills and professions as I could, I feel motivated. Also, very forturnate for me, I'm actually pretty good at both art and coding. Drawing and photographing has been my main hobby,lol. Anyway, thanks for the advice of developing a strategy! I'm planing on learn more about internet network and drawing skills improvement after learning c and unity x).

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 09:22 AM

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花生小雞板友,你中四就寫到甘好既英文,係咪讀名校,非常注重英文果D?


做遊戲浪費咗你啲英文。應該去做商業 IT。


等你大學做煙腸嗰陣,我請你。 ... [/quote]


過獎過獎,小弟只係讀地區裡一間比較 top 嘅band 1 學校,又對英文有興趣啫。我 d 英文都只係f.2 程度,仲有好多進步空間。話嗮英文對我黎講只係其中一種幫助我自學嘅工具 xP

漆哥 2019-5-11 09:58 AM

可以寫D簡單2D GAME先,乾坤大挪移都要一級級練,有人練左成世都只可以有四級,有人練幾個鐘就到七級,睇人啦 !  冇小昭既encourage,無忌都唔會去練大挪移,佢一睇楊教主練左成世人都只係得四級,一見就知唔得!呢個故事好發人深省

我係中學雞既時候,學校只有精英才有Computer讀,我當然冇得讀,學校電腦我冇機會用,用電腦都係問人借,問高年班師兄Catalog Command點用,但俾人笑,笑完仲要唔撚答,嬲佢一世!搞到我要每日用麥提莎誘騙鄰居俾我玩一兩個鐘,書又冇錢買,當年圖書館冇咩電腦書,去學校借書又有,去書局企四個鐘背台灣老翻書又有,我唔係咩讀書超勁既人,英文更只有小四程度 (島主高台貴手 ⋯⋯),但我都可以係一個咁賤權既空間下,寫出一個Assembly Line Editor & Complier,轉換56 assembly instruction and 13 addressing mode to machine codes,還可以用relative addressing,參加學校比賽仲攞埋獎 (老師識貨!!!),個電腦老師問我有咩願望,我好記得我話希望學校幫我報會考電腦。

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食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 10:05 AM

感謝大家嘅回覆!! po 這個帖果陣真系灰灰地,嚴重懷疑人生;P (講笑啫)。大家嘅意見同分享真係比我好大鼓勵,繼續行落去。多謝 (*´ω`*)

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食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 10:27 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]漆哥[/i] 於 2019-5-11 09:58 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=499147252&ptid=28210680][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
可以寫D簡單2D GAME先,乾坤大挪移都要一級級練,有人練左成世都只可以有四級,有人練幾個鐘就到七級,睇人啦 !  冇小昭既encourage,無忌都唔會去練大挪移,佢一睇楊教主練左成世人都只係得四級,一見就知唔得!呢個故事好發人深省

我係中學雞既時候,學校只有精英才有Computer讀,我當然冇得讀,學校電腦我冇機會用,用電腦都係問人借,問高年班師兄Catalog Command點用,但 ... [/quote]


實在令人敬佩!!! 當初你就算冇資源都咁努力,我有咁多機會資源都唔努力嘅話,就真係講唔過去 xD。我會盡力嫁啦!多謝 x))) (唔使太驚,我唔會因為英文唔好睇唔起人,話嗮每個人天分都唔同😂😂我身邊好多同學英文都得小學程度)

我的無比膏 2019-5-11 01:38 PM

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唔使咁灰,大灣區,過條河去深圳南山科技園,找到 馬X騰, 問下佢食雞 or 王者的榮耀 須要 programmer or designer 。:smile_30: [/quote]


食雞被迫下架了

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 01:39 PM

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食雞被迫下架了 [/quote]


內地最近批發牌照果邊唔批啫,依然有個和平版嘅食雞嘅

食花生嘅小雞 2019-5-11 01:45 PM

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其實內地遊戲業受到政府打壓甚至不看好,系事實。也有好多小公司因為咁倒閉。但我覺得(如果入到) 大公司例如騰訊這種大龍頭公司,(好彩唔比人炒嘅話)其實都可以攞到經驗,日後就算唔創業,去其他公司做都唔錯。

動感超人打怪獸 2019-5-11 09:07 PM

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