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超級幼稚的羔羊 2019-12-23 09:39 PM

係pro firm做緊accounting

其實係acct呢條路上有啲迷惘
畢業之後無揀audit做呢個決定我無後悔
因我唔想返大陸又唔想ot到隻狗咁
現時係間都大嘅business service provider做緊 但workload都唔算少
重點係我覺得自己雖然u grad 但自己係會計嘅知識真係好皮毛
同時考試之路非常之唔順利
pass唔到個試係呢行係咪真係好吃虧?
做commercial係咪會輕鬆啲?但係做落去係咪好難升?

車站永恆的湯圓 2019-12-24 09:25 AM

I guess u are working in TriXXX ServicXX LTD.
I worked before when i was fresh grad, dun waste your time.
Jump back to audit, my experience can tell u workload in TriXXX is more than audit.
but salary is way lower than audit. My supervisor work there for 9 years and she is Suverpisor -H, only hv 30K... what a pity......

coria 2019-12-24 09:34 AM

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I guess u are working in TriXXX ServicXX LTD.
I worked before when i was fresh grad, dun waste your time.
Jump back to audit, my experience can tell u workload in TriXXX is more than audit.
but  ... [/quote]


t 記會計部好唔好做,高層好唔好,奸唔奸?

車站永恆的湯圓 2019-12-24 09:53 AM

friendly ge, but low salary wor .... u will regret when u grow up.

車站永恆的湯圓 2019-12-24 10:02 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]超級幼稚的羔羊[/i] 於 2019-12-23 09:39 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=512138011&ptid=28775062][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實係acct呢條路上有啲迷惘
畢業之後無揀audit做呢個決定我無後悔
因我唔想返大陸又唔想ot到隻狗咁
現時係間都大嘅business service provider做緊 但workload都唔算少
重點係我覺得自己雖然u grad 但自己係會計嘅知識真係好皮毛
同時考試之路非常之唔順利
pass唔到個試係呢行係咪真係好吃虧?
做commercial係咪會輕鬆啲?但係做落去係咪好難升? ... [/quote]

My suggestions, work for audit for 4-5 years, then jump back to commercial,
u can find a hea commercial job to earn 50K up easily.
can be 2nd tiers -> big4 or local -> second tiers -> big4 (final destination of audit must be big4)

If u choose to hea in beginning years, u will still earning 20~30k after 8 years even u get a CPA.
You will feel very sad when u see your classmates all earning 50K+

超級幼稚的羔羊 2019-12-24 12:20 PM

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I guess u are working in TriXXX ServicXX LTD.
I worked before when i was fresh grad, dun waste your time.
Jump back to audit, my experience can tell u workload in TriXXX is more than audit.
but  ... [/quote]
audit workload少過?未至於吧?
應該local先會比較少 但人工都相對好低?

超級幼稚的羔羊 2019-12-24 12:22 PM

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friendly ge, but low salary wor .... u will regret when u grow up. [/quote]
你嗰時做左幾耐?係後悔做咁耐但人工低?

超級幼稚的羔羊 2019-12-24 12:29 PM

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My suggestions, work for audit for 4-5 years, then jump back to commercial,
u can find a hea commercial job to earn 50K up easily.
can be 2nd tiers -> big4 or local -> second tiers -> big4 (fi ... [/quote]
但係我宜家做左普通會計已經幾年 又去返audit重新黎過係咪好蠢...
同埋我考試個度真係...

車站永恆的湯圓 2019-12-24 02:56 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]超級幼稚的羔羊[/i] 於 2019-12-24 12:29 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=512157425&ptid=28775062][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

但係我宜家做左普通會計已經幾年 又去返audit重新黎過係咪好蠢...
同埋我考試個度真係... [/quote]

i worked for 2 years and then jump to second tiers starting from Asso Yr 1 , work 1.5 yr , then Big4 starting from A Yr2 to SA yr 3 , then commercial lo

Twittering 2019-12-25 12:33 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]超級幼稚的羔羊[/i] 於 2019-12-23 09:39 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=512138011&ptid=28775062][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實係acct呢條路上有啲迷惘
畢業之後無揀audit做呢個決定我無後悔
因我唔想返大陸又唔想ot到隻狗咁
現時係間都大嘅business service provider做緊 但workload都唔算少
重點係我覺得自己雖然u grad 但自己係會計嘅知識真係好皮毛
同時考試之路非常之唔順利
pass唔到個試係呢行係咪真係好吃虧?
做commercial係咪會輕鬆啲?但係做落去係咪好難升? ... [/quote]

係咪Trxcxr之類既prof firm?我舊同事poly grad,佢做兩年T公司既accounting services之後裸辭,佢話勁辛苦做到十一點幾,間公司人工超低,做人哋唔要扔出嚟既會計job,有同事接到啲job做FS嘢,個exposure好過佢,Q完之後加做咗三年exp轉咗入banking做,人工幾高,佢無咁好彩啲job係無exposure,Q完話會計無景去咗做one man band full set會計...


樓主pass咗幾份paper?唔好直入commercial,勁難升,commercial 做牛無用ga,要識少少刷鞋同拉關係先會升職快過火箭,你如果有睇job market就知啲大公司肥上瘦下,揾agent出低價請十項全能

超級幼稚的羔羊 2019-12-25 01:31 AM

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係咪Trxcxr之類既prof firm?我舊同事poly grad,佢做兩年T公司既accounting services之後裸辭,佢話勁辛苦做到十一點幾,間公司人工超低,做人哋唔要扔出嚟既會計job,有同事接到啲job做FS嘢,個exposure好過佢,Q完之後加做咗三年exp轉咗入banking做,人工幾高,佢無咁好彩啲job係無exposure,Q完話會計無景去咗做one man  ... [/quote]
T公司有FS野?
叫我刷鞋就唔掂㗎啦 但唔通宜家去返做audit?
覺得自己無料到 考過幾次都唔pass 諗緊係轉cpaa...

Twittering 2019-12-25 08:50 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]超級幼稚的羔羊[/i] 於 2019-12-25 01:31 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=512180642&ptid=28775062][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

T公司有FS野?
叫我刷鞋就唔掂㗎啦 但唔通宜家去返做audit?
覺得自己無料到 考過幾次都唔pass 諗緊係轉cpaa... [/quote]

有細bank job但派片睇下邊個中,量極少,個同事做T記都差唔多十年前既事,而家點唔太清楚
大公司唔叫呢啲做「刷鞋」,叫打「好關係」,識人好過識字,但唔識字,連想識既人都識唔到

我自己都想由做audit開始,commercial由細做起勁多下欄嘢,可以做五年以上,上面啲mgr都唔肯放重要嘢你跟,由得你做low end 嘢,有大公司EXP但都唔能夠獨當一面唔洗諗MGR份人工會終有一日袋到,有同事做大公司之後轉做細公司都係因為咁

LU001 2019-12-25 09:55 AM

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coria 2019-12-25 05:59 PM

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有細bank job但派片睇下邊個中,量極少,個同事做T記都差唔多十年前既事,而家點唔太清楚
大公司唔叫呢啲做「刷鞋」,叫打「好關係」,識人好過識字,但唔識字,連想識既人都識唔到

我自己都想由做audit開始,commercial由細做起勁多下欄嘢,可以做五年以上,上面啲mgr都唔肯放重要嘢你跟,由得你做low end 嘢,有大公司EXP但都唔能夠獨當一面唔洗諗MGR份人工會終有一 ... [/quote]


大公司做operations 做一part冇用
去到細公司full set未必做得掂(通常要調整利潤)
細公司唔夠錢請full set

stc77777 2019-12-26 09:04 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]超級幼稚的羔羊[/i] 於 2019-12-23 09:39 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=512138011&ptid=28775062][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實係acct呢條路上有啲迷惘
畢業之後無揀audit做呢個決定我無後悔
因我唔想返大陸又唔想ot到隻狗咁
現時係間都大嘅business service provider做緊 但workload都唔算少
重點係我覺得自己雖然u grad 但自己係會計嘅知識真係好皮毛
同時考試之路非常之唔順利
pass唔到個試係呢行係咪真係好吃虧?
做commercial係咪會輕鬆啲?但係做落去係咪好難升? ... [/quote]
如果可以入BIG4/second tier, 轉audit, 如果不能入BIG4/second tier, 考政府 ACO (HKCEE 5 passes+LCC intermediate),
CA (F4), commercial accounts clerk (full set) (F5+ LCC intermediate)

[[i] 本帖最後由 stc77777 於 2019-12-26 12:51 PM 編輯 [/i]]

suffocation 2019-12-26 09:44 AM

commercial請女多,你系咪女人先?唔系的話,你有咩value俾老闆睇到你可以值更多人工先?

coria 2019-12-26 10:39 AM

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commercial請女多,你系咪女人先?唔系的話,你有咩value俾老闆睇到你可以值更多人工先? [/quote]


commercial 都有請男 ,不過升職慢
升唔到職,轉工難(就算考完)
男兒志在4方,如果男冇做過big4, second tier commercial accounting 係一份冇前途既工

suffocation 2019-12-26 12:07 PM

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commercial 都有請男 ,不過升職慢
升唔到職,轉工難(就算考完)
男兒志在4方,如果男冇做過big4, second tier commercial accounting 係一份冇前途既工 [/quote]


commercial 7成女3成男

Twittering 2019-12-27 12:16 AM

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commercial 都有請男 ,不過升職慢
升唔到職,轉工難(就算考完)
男兒志在4方,如果男冇做過big4, second tier commercial accounting 係一份冇前途既工 [/quote]

係女都未必易上位,commercial 啱放工湊仔煮飯啲c9,事業型都係想打拼,無論男女都係,唔通頭十年做退休mode既工同啲old seafood一樣做到廢武功等退休


可能industry 問題,我見啲mgt通常係男,但低級嗰啲係女為主,好少全女班,finance dept 清一色係女暫時又未見過,男女上司既作風係有啲唔同,正常女上司我只遇過一個

coria 2019-12-27 08:08 AM

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係女都未必易上位,commercial 啱放工湊仔煮飯啲c9,事業型都係想打拼,無論男女都係,唔通頭十年做退休mode既工同啲old seafood一樣做到廢武功等退休


可能industry 問題,我見啲mgt通常係男,但低級嗰啲係女為主,好少全女班,finance dept 清一色係女暫時又未見過,男女上司既作風係有啲唔同,正常女上司我只遇過一個 ... [/quote]


曾經做過一家跨國us mnc 6年,finance dept有10幾人有operations, reporting 2team ,除一個ar officer 每年升一格最後做到fc外,其他10幾人不論大細未見個有人升職。
亦同意女上司正常唔多
遇個一個本來正常,份人好nice 對我好好既女上司,但新領導慈禧太后上場後,話你做得野加辛至每晚8點下班,但其他c9依舊準時放工,表達自己立場之後唔妥

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Twittering 2019-12-27 08:37 AM

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曾經做過一家跨國us mnc 6年,finance dept有10幾人有operations, reporting 2team ,除一個ar officer 每年升一格最後做到fc外,其他10幾人不論大細未見個有人升職。
亦同意女上司正常唔多 ... [/quote]

啲同事唔升職唔會打算轉工咩?拎ORSO?
大公司又好,mnc又好,越大間公司越肥上瘦下,請個幾年exp既同事,為咗慳一兩千追自己個kpi走去同個candidate 拗價錢,低級職員差一兩千好影響佢全家收入ga,大公司啲hr又唔professional

coria 2019-12-27 08:41 AM

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啲同事唔升職唔會打算轉工咩?拎ORSO?
大公司又好,mnc又好,越大間公司越肥上瘦下,請個幾年exp既同事,為咗慳一兩千追自己個kpi走去同個candidate 拗價錢,低級職員差一兩千好影響佢全家收入ga,大公司啲hr又唔professional ... [/quote]


其間有料當然轉工,有d至今發展唔錯
依家做緊間公司每年都有quota 比人升職,finance dept有10幾人當然有quota

回想當年6年冇人升職,appraisal 唔會個個都差,美國唔係主張平等自由?如果quota 比晒其他部門會計部冇份都唔正常,當年會計高層同hr director 好friend, hr director 成日要會計部同事出席飯局的

係拎orso

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Twittering 2019-12-27 08:44 AM

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其間有料當然轉工,有d至今發展唔錯

係拎orso [/quote]

拎ORSO正過mpf好多
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