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律師今時今日，發展平平，競爭太大，人工可能得1萬多……值得用十幾萬投資？

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-10 15:11 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=519987145&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
律師今時今日，發展平平，競爭太大，人工可能得1萬多……值得用十幾萬投資？ [/quote]

我之前都有OFFER, 但放棄左~ 因為覺得唔值~:smile_39:

[quote]原帖由 [i]20060701[/i] 於 2020-6-10 07:17 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=519999054&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


我之前都有OFFER, 但放棄左~ 因為覺得唔值~:smile_39: [/quote]


same here.. feel frustrated

CPE/ GDL/ LondonU 除非你名校底 （at least 三大level), 否則PCLL出嚟根本唔會有中型 local firms 請, 更遑論 international law firms. 港中城有咗JD programmes, 根本輪唔到你哋。當然，如果打算local firms qualified 後20-30k 一個月＋做到死 （no OT and 等如冇嘅bonus) ，讀下又冇壞。

唔好有太高expectation, 10 皮當進修冇所謂。事實喺好多中城JD 或 中港城 / overseas LLB 嘅legal career 都一般般。相比較，10皮小數目。

我報MMU讀黎真係為興趣
老老實實

次幾級大學既LLB/CPE
你都預計到就算俾你讀埋PCLL會有咩offer

讀黎唔好諗住會有好好前途
用黎for promotion或者多樣技能旁身
咁樣諗會好d

[quote]原帖由 [i]wesleysai[/i] 於 2020-6-11 06:35 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520049671&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我報MMU讀黎真係為興趣
老老實實

次幾級大學既LLB/CPE
你都預計到就算俾你讀埋PCLL會有咩offer

讀黎唔好諗住會有好好前途
用黎for promotion或者多樣技能旁身
咁樣諗會好d ... [/quote]


You are working law-related job?

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-11 09:10 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520055868&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



You are working law-related job? [/quote]
Yes
所以先話讀黎為興趣/promotion
雖然有三大背景
但諗過度過之後
都係想平平地報MMU當進修下拎埋個LLB算

上面都好多人講左個現實
俾你讀完做到個律師
都係做細細間firm搵幾皮野

其實依家好多工都有
何必一定要揀做律師爭餐死呢

[quote]原帖由 [i]wesleysai[/i] 於 2020-6-11 09:14 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520056027&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Yes
所以先話讀黎為興趣/promotion
雖然有三大背景
但諗過度過之後
都係想平平地報MMU當進修下拎埋個LLB算

上面都好多人講左個現實
俾你讀完做到個律師
都係做細細間firm搵幾皮野

其實依家好多工都有
何必一定要揀做律師爭餐死呢 ... [/quote]


You get offer this year?

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-11 09:29 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520056724&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



You get offer this year? [/quote]
上個月報
都仲未有信丫

個d院校吹到法律呢科好神好glorious 令到d人產生美好幻想 但其實讀落先知讀law係又難又大壓力 讀唔到pcll就bye lan bye d工又西 簡直係世紀大伏科!!! 回頭是岸!!!

[quote]原帖由 [i]knivan[/i] 於 2020-6-11 10:36 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520059691&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
個d院校吹到法律呢科好神好glorious 令到d人產生美好幻想 但其實讀落先知讀law係又難又大壓力 讀唔到pcll就bye lan bye d工又西 簡直係世紀大伏科!!! 回頭是岸!!! ... [/quote]


Have you studied this program ?

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-12 08:47 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520072876&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



Have you studied this program ? [/quote]


not studying mmu but jd & other gdl
唔太清楚mmu 但都係類似6月迫埋一次過考3-4科 仲要closed book 3粒鐘3條problem question 即係成個course 所有內容都要背哂 咁多野背full time讀都難頂la 佢又唔可以比你3-4個月 一科科咁考 係要迫埋哂一次過考

[quote]原帖由 [i]knivan[/i] 於 2020-6-12 11:23 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520080180&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



not studying mmu but jd & other gdl
唔太清楚mmu 但都係類似6月迫埋一次過考3-4科 仲要closed book 3粒鐘3條problem question 即係成個course 所有內容都要背哂 咁多野背full time讀都難頂la 佢又唔可以比你3-4個月 一科科咁考 係要迫埋哂一次過考 ... [/quote]


How's your JD study ?

[quote]原帖由 [i]wesleysai[/i] 於 2020-6-11 06:35 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520049671&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我報MMU讀黎真係為興趣
老老實實

次幾級大學既LLB/CPE
你都預計到就算俾你讀埋PCLL會有咩offer

讀黎唔好諗住會有好好前途
用黎for promotion或者多樣技能旁身
咁樣諗會好d ... [/quote]
Ching, 可唔可以分享點解報MMU，點樣比較其他programs，例如U of Law GDL / U of London / HKU / PolyU? 五花八門，真係唔係好識分，thanks :smile_42:

[quote]原帖由 [i]好多人[/i] 於 2020-6-12 02:51 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520088782&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Ching, 可唔可以分享點解報MMU，點樣比較其他programs，例如U of Law GDL / U of London / HKU / PolyU? 五花八門，真係唔係好識分，thanks :smile_42: [/quote]
UOL前人讀到屌晒鬼
仲要唔係SPACE自己出題
分分鐘讀到尾都係得2:2

MMU唔敢講易好多
不過兩害取其輕

我寧願試下MMU好過

JD就純粹太貴唔考慮
比較有錢既朋友

我覺得應該報JD

[[i] 本帖最後由 wesleysai 於 2020-6-16 10:30 PM 編輯 [/i]]

[url=https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/cpe]MMU[/url][quote]原帖由 [i]wesleysai[/i] 於 2020-6-12 04:45 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520093570&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

UOL前人讀到屌閪鬼
仲要唔係SPACE自己出題
分分鐘讀到尾都係得2:2

MMU唔敢講易好多
不過兩害取其輕

我寧願試下MMU好過

JD就純粹太貴唔考慮
比較有錢既朋友

我覺得應該報JD ... [/quote]

原來係咁，所以 [url=https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/cpe]MMU[/url] 就exempt from conversion courses，而讀 [url=https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/llb-preparation-courses]ULondon[/url] 嘅人就主要貪佢個朵？

[[i] 本帖最後由 好多人 於 2020-6-13 02:51 AM 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]好多人[/i] 於 2020-6-13 02:33 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520114217&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

原來係咁，所以MMU就exempt from conversion courses，而讀ULondon嘅人就主要貪佢個朵？ [/quote]
我理解
UOL同MMU都係要conversion

只係MMU相對上會「比較」易d 貼得中

[quote]原帖由 [i]wesleysai[/i] 於 2020-6-13 02:35 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520114264&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

我理解
UOL同MMU都係要conversion

只係MMU相對上會「比較」易d 貼得中 [/quote]我見MMU CPE個網站 ([url=https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/cpe]link[/url]) 係寫話：
[i]"Graduates of these programmes have been, for many years, [b][u][color=#008000]exempted from taking many extra conversion exams[/color][/u][/b] required of graduates of other English law courses before they can apply and see if they can continue to the Postgraduate Certificate in Laws (PCLL), the main route to qualifying as a lawyer in Hong Kong. Study part-time for just two years and you will receive a Graduate Diploma in English and Hong Kong Law and be eligible to continue directly to professional legal training courses in England & Wales. Add on an optional third year part-time and you will get an LLB (Hons) Hong Kong and the chance to apply and see if you can join the many graduates of this course who have been successfully admitted to the P.C.LL. [b][u][color=#008000]without the hassle of having to sit a large numbers of extra conversion exams[/color][/u][/b]. With thousands of alumni in Hong Kong, no other law programme of this kind offers such a wide range of career paths. That’s why, for nearly three decades, the Graduate Diploma in English and Hong Kong Law has been Hong Kong's most popular part-time route towards legal practice."[/i]

我目標係 MMU 第1年GPA 要超過3……有無同學可以分享MMU功課量及考試預備情況……

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-13 02:38 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520130640&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我目標係 MMU 第1年GPA 要超過3……有無同學可以分享MMU功課量及考試預備情況…… [/quote]


any sharing?

I've just completed CPE last year. My sharing only reflects workload of my own cohort. Before main lectures of year 1 begin, You'd attend a short pre-course on English legal system and sit for an easy MC test. Only those passed the test can continue. There will be 2 courseworks every academic year, word count varying from 2000 to 5000 words. Some modules are solely examined by coursework, some by final examination, some by both. I'd say that coursework would counts for around one-fourth of total marks.

CPE is jointly offered by MMU and HKU. For English modules, MMU lecturers delivers introductory and revision lectures. HKU lecturers delivers local lectures (Year 1 and 2 only) and tutorials. For HK modules, all of them are delivered by local lecturers. Most lecturers are willing to give tips on examinable topics and type of question to students in revision block. The tuition fee includes text book, case book, CILEx manual. To read or not to read, that's the question.

Course structure, however, may differ drastically following these events. First, EU law is trimmed down into a half module due to Brexit(?). Second, civil procedure and criminal procedure are no longer required by PCLL providers. Third, schedule may be disrupted in this difficult time.

[quote]原帖由 [i]fatookit[/i] 於 2020-6-22 05:12 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520575671&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I've just completed CPE last year. My sharing only reflects workload of my own cohort. Before main lectures of year 1 begin, You'd attend a short pre-course on English legal system and sit for an easy ... [/quote]


Thanks.. Are u PCLL student now?

估唔到10多年來個課程都冇咩變wor

如我之前所講，有興趣就應該讀，冇興趣純粹搵食就唔好讀。如果要考慮投資回報的話應該攞d錢去投資股票啦


一般而言，有個牌搵嘢做容易d，但一定唔會發達。


trainee皮幾嘢，剛admit幾皮嘢，我覺得都ok，因為唔會成世幾皮嘢掛？

投資的時間精神及不一定讀到PCLL及搵到工的不確定性甚大，錢反而系小事

I'm applying for PCLL right now.
If you'd like to get a legal qualification, CPE is good enough.
If you'd like to be a lawyer, you have to get the top-up LLB as well or to sit for 3 conversion papers. Only then could you satisfy the stringent subject requirement set by PCLL course providers. Satisfying so doesn't mean that you'd secure a place at PCLL. This only means that you can apply for PCLL.

對於我嚟講CPE絕對值得讀⋯當年入唔到大學誤打誤撞走咗去讀Diploma in legal studies，之後讀CPE再讀PCLL，做trainee⋯admit⋯做律師⋯so far真係唔錯

[quote]原帖由 [i]Chowlie[/i] 於 2020-7-3 23:22 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=521117100&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
對於我嚟講CPE絕對值得讀⋯當年入唔到大學誤打誤撞走咗去讀Diploma in legal studies，之後讀CPE再讀PCLL，做trainee⋯admit⋯做律師⋯so far真係唔錯 [/quote]

現在咁樣行... 唔知易唔易搵食呢...
我就唔知了...

[quote]原帖由 [i]knivan[/i] 於 2020-6-12 11:23 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520080180&ptid=29136226][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



not studying mmu but jd & other gdl
唔太清楚mmu 但都係類似6月迫埋一次過考3-4科 仲要closed book 3粒鐘3條problem question 即係成個course 所有內容都要背哂 咁多野背full time讀都難頂la 佢又唔可以比你3-4個月 一科科咁考 係要迫埋哂一次過考 ... [/quote]

其他program係open book? 定係唔洗一次過考？
我有朋友係外國讀LLB回流，佢話最packed一星期內考4科