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Vicson 2020-6-21 02:36 AM

(master of data science)香港三大 vs 美國sf bay area普通大學

如果以master of data science來說你會點選, 香港三大都有data science讀但入學要求好似唔係太高, 課程內容亦好似唔太同外國,睇落好似得hkust似樣d


hkust
https://prog-crs.ust.hk/pgcourse/2019-20/MSBD


hku
https://www.scifac.hku.hk/prospective/tpg/MDASC


cuhk
https://www.sta.cuhk.edu.hk/Programmes/PostgraduateStudies/MScinDataScienceandBusinessStatistics.aspx#Fee

竹劍 2020-6-21 08:40 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Vicson[/i] 於 2020-6-21 02:36 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520502421&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
如果以master of data science來說你會點選, 香港三大都有data science讀但入學要求好似唔係太高, 課程內容亦好似唔太同外國,睇落好似得hkust似樣d


hkust
[url=https://prog-crs.ust.hk/pgcourse/2019-20/MSBD]https://prog-crs.ust.hk/pgcourse/2019-20/MSBD[/url]


hku
[url=https://www.scifac.hku.hk/prospective/tp]https://www.scifac.hku.hk/prospective/tp[/url] ... [/quote]
1. 其實內容同外國既唔差好遠.
2. 睇你想去邊度做野 + 睇你有冇護照.

gingerbread007 2020-6-22 02:00 PM

中大個program係under statistics department嘅
港大係statistics and acturial science + computer science合辦
科大係computer science and engineering department


呢樣都要留意,會影響program個重心。

narius 2020-6-23 05:41 AM

Come to the US. It is really not about the materials. You can get the same materials almost anywhere. It is about projects, possible internships, and working with faculty who actually have experiences in the area.


There is a lot more opportunities and collaboration between faculty and top notch high tech companies in the US.


Personally, i believe in learning by doing. Let's take AI (deep learning network type) as an example. Everyone will teach tensorflow, (possibly keras) and probably use MNIST as the teaching example. While you certainly get the basics, it is not as good as just hack for a real project. I have two grad students who are able to learn enough to put something together that runs for a research project. (So from 0 to a running AI for a research project in 2 weeks but the real work takes ... 1-2 years). But that is not the real learning. The real learning is why certain things work, how to do computation experiments to figure that out, and develop intuition about the science.


To be fair, i don't know the faculty in this area well at the HK schools so may be they are doing well too. But I am sure plenty of people in the bay area are at the top of the data science game as I used to work there, and still work with many of them.  

Vicson 2020-6-23 09:07 AM

感謝各位意見, 我本身有green card, 問題係我有私人原因仲未決定未來在us/hk發展, 所以想讀一個將來兩邊都可以搵到工的master.....

竹劍 2020-6-23 05:05 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Vicson[/i] 於 2020-6-23 09:07 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520599850&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
感謝各位意見, 我本身有green card, 問題係我有私人原因仲未決定未來在us/hk發展, 所以想讀一個將來兩邊都可以搵到工的master..... [/quote]
你諗住full time定part time讀? 個人係邊?
估計你係US bachelor in some kind of STEM? (stat? CS? or math/phy/EE/etc?)
Budget constraint手唔手緊?

[[i] 本帖最後由 竹劍 於 2020-6-23 05:08 PM 編輯 [/i]]

littlejasmineee 2020-6-23 06:36 PM

論工作機會一定係美國多,你重要係讀data science, 重要喺加州讀,識人好過識字啊! 你重要有green card,簽證都唔洗擔心,攞啲成績搵agent索索料,可能你唔止去到sfbay啲普通大學

Caucasian2 2020-6-24 08:50 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]gingerbread007[/i] 於 2020-6-22 02:00 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520567304&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
中大個program係under statistics department嘅
港大係statistics and acturial science + computer science合辦
科大係computer science and engineering department


呢樣都要留意,會影響program個重心。 ... [/quote]

請問你指既係入學試或內容重心不同?

Vicson 2020-6-25 10:15 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]竹劍[/i] 於 2020-6-23 05:05 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520619928&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

你諗住full time定part time讀? 個人係邊?
估計你係US bachelor in some kind of STEM? (stat? CS? or math/phy/EE/etc?)
Budget constraint手唔手緊? [/quote]
想讀full time, 我係us bachelor但只係econ major.....(所以先諗住報下香港d好大學(入學要求好似比us低),因為知道自己的major背景同gpa未必入到us top的大學)

竹劍 2020-6-26 12:45 PM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Vicson[/i] 於 2020-6-25 10:15 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520692226&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

想讀full time, 我係us bachelor但只係econ major.....(所以先諗住報下香港d好大學(入學要求好似比us低),因為知道自己的major背景同gpa未必入到us top的大學) [/quote]

1. US good uni 可以畀你access to both US and HK job market, but not the same can be said for HK uni or a normal US one. 至於乜水平既美國大學拎番HK一樣好好用就depends啦, 我估top 50應該冇大問題, 但係要具體分析.

2. 建議網課補basic CS & stat背景, e.g. [url=https://www.edx.org/micromasters/gtx-analytics-essential-tools-and-methods]https://www.edx.org/micromasters/gtx-analytics-essential-tools-and-methods[/url] 之類MOOC再申請.

narius 2020-6-27 10:21 AM

[quote]原帖由 [i]Vicson[/i] 於 2020-6-25 10:15 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520692226&ptid=29160653][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

想讀full time, 我係us bachelor但只係econ major.....(所以先諗住報下香港d好大學(入學要求好似比us低),因為知道自己的major背景同gpa未必入到us top的大學) [/quote]

How is your econometrics? and general math background? Applied data science is really not that hard (but yes, i recognize that "hard" is in the eyes of the beholder) because the emphasis is on the use of the method, as opposed to the theoretical underpinning of the mathematical structures.

The other point is that even going to a decent large state research university in the US (and that is not that difficult given all the UCs, UTs and so on) is probably a better career move compared to going to the best school in HK, and even if that school rated better in some world-wide ranking.

Why? Because you will have access to the US job market.

canaan123 2020-6-27 12:27 PM

樓主, 說說我兒在美情況, 或許讓你對美國的就業市場多些了解. 
我兒, 美籍, 2017年美國名校畢業, bachelor, Stat/CS, 自幼聰慧有讀書天份, 他父親一直想他讀Ph.D, 但他最終拒絕了, 說自己不適合讀Ph.D.
當其時STEM就業環境上佳, 他說要先體驗生活才再返回校園, 大學畢業立時投入工作, top firm, 做數據分析.
2019年春天他轉去另一家top firm, 這趟是入了data science部門, 至今又過了一年余, 工作似乎很順利, 說同組同級的兩個有master degree的表現都不夠他好.  問他計劃何時讀master of data science, 他說會, 但不是現在, 說現在工作上學到的比學校還多, 又說公司現在是用人之際, 他還想儘量掙取升職機會.  此外聽他說遇上疫情, 公司業績反而大幅上升, 他的部門將有豐厚花紅派發. 

Jpsony 2020-6-27 04:12 PM

等coronavirus 等下來去us發展吧

冬寒濃濃的羊羊 2020-6-30 09:22 PM

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