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本人已經3x歲。考AL時其實都想入法律，不過不夠分，入了其他major。University of Law，BPP，LondonU ，HKUSpace有開法律課程 我keep住都有興趣。可惜，廿幾歲時 等下等下 都無take action。而家對依件事又重新考慮多次，希望大家可俾d意見:
1. 現時工作與law無關，(亦與大學修的major無關)。不打算轉legal field。讀law對升職幫助十分有限。
2. 讀law只是想增法律知識及思維，實現十幾歲時夢想。如果enroll左，唔會以高分做目標，但都唔想科科40分緊緊合格。
3. 年紀大了，記憶力有所衰退，不論工作 父母責任都重左。真的要讀的話 依一兩年去馬好d，再遲d應該更難。


至於點解廿幾歲時無take action，concern 如下:1. 青少年時夢想不一定是realistic (可以係impulsive)，而且有興趣唔等於academically competent /capable。既然對於工作上沒太大利 又唔想轉行，想留番d錢。
2. 聽人講讀law要付上很多時間，而且可能影響工作。有part-time讀law搞到日日無精神，工作出錯多，又要考試study leave，上司好似不太滿意。
3. 依幾年都曾經去大學library借law textbook 睇(criminal, tort, contract, evidence, employment)。睇時只能記到principles同一小部分cases。而且，睇到一定數目頁數就覺得chur 好想放低。放低了幾日又會pick up番本書，循循環環。未試過睇幾十頁judgement，所以唔知會點樣。(可能讀的方法用錯了 又或者law不適合我)

本人心感矛盾，真心請各位賜教: 1.讀 2.再睇多d textbook睇到有confidence先 3. 唔讀兼唔再去諗。謝謝。

[quote]原帖由 [i]TM3[/i] 於 2020-6-28 12:21 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520831711&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
本人已經3x歲。考AL時其實都想入法律，不過不夠分，入了其他major。University of Law，BPP，LondonU ，HKUSpace有開法律課程 我keep住都有興趣。可惜，廿幾歲時 等下等下 都無take action。而家對依件事又重新考慮多次，希望大家可俾d意見:
1. 現時工作與law無關，(亦與大學修的major無關)。不打算轉legal field。讀law對升職幫 ... [/quote]


My case is similar as you. I am going to LondonU though received the HKU Space CPE offer (rejected) wanna study module by module.........

but from what I interpreted from forum, CPE seems easier than London U in terms of exam. But in terms of class schedule CPE demands 3 evenings a week.

[quote]原帖由 [i]TM3[/i] 於 2020-6-28 01:46 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520834833&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
but from what I interpreted from forum, CPE seems easier than London U in terms of exam. But in terms of class schedule CPE demands 3 evenings a week. [/quote]


I'm not sure about this..... For the lecture schedule,  LondonU is intensive, consecutive days . Take Contract Law as an example,  12 days intensive courses, each class 3 hours... and also they will provide exam skills seminars, mock exam and revision lectures,  which are included in titution fee. It seems that the support is reasonable.

[quote]原帖由 [i]TM3[/i] 於 2020-6-28 12:21 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520831711&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
本人已經3x歲。考AL時其實都想入法律，不過不夠分，入了其他major。University of Law，BPP，LondonU ，HKUSpace有開法律課程 我keep住都有興趣。可惜，廿幾歲時 等下等下 都無take action。而家對依件事又重新考慮多次，希望大家可俾d意見:
1. 現時工作與law無關，(亦與大學修的major無關)。不打算轉legal field。讀law對升職幫 ... [/quote]
Here is my thought:

1. if you dont take action now, you may regret in same years later and wonder why you have not had decided that study when you still can.

2. If you dont intend to be a lawyer, you have plenty of Options.

3. If study law is an affirmative answer, the next question would be which course to study.

4. I would suggest UOL, it’s flexIabe

為興趣，點解要去讀？有時間自己睇書都得，網上亦大把資源！你唔駛証明俾人睇你識唔識法律。
又唔係想入行，又唔係要個學位，有些少多餘！

[quote]原帖由 [i]stepbystep1314[/i] 於 2020-6-28 04:26 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520841847&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Here is my thought:

1. if you dont take action now, you may regret in same years later and wonder why you have not had decided that study when you still can.

2. If you dont intend to be a lawyer, y ... [/quote]

Thank you. yes even though the pass rate was lower in my interpretation, I would tend to favour UOL primarily.

[quote]原帖由 [i]TM3[/i] 於 2020-6-28 10:23 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520860679&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


Thank you. yes even though the pass rate was lower in my interpretation, I would tend to favour UOL primarily. [/quote]
If you want to secure a PCLL place, studying UOL is much more challenging than MMU or the other GDL providers. the major reason is that it’s not easy to get a good grades for three subjects (land, turst and jurisprudence) at UOL. Second, UOL requires you to study in a highly disciplined way. It means that you cannot take a break or on holiday trip during the years of study because you should learn, memorize and revise all study materials and then practice those knowledge with the past exam papers . In fact, you should spend at least 3 hours a day to study from Sep to next May/June for at least 3 years.
Having said that, if you do not want to get into PCLL but graduate with a 2:2, lesser effort should be required.
Last but not least, it does not matter how well you did in your first degree or your master(s), studying a law degree at UOL may be out of your expectation. Never assume that your first hon degree can help you to get a high 2:1 in UOL. It is possible but i wonder if there has been many successful cases in the past.
FYI
[url=https://www.londonlawlectures.com/uol-llb-pass-rates-and-average-marks-october-2018-hong-kong-china/]https://www.londonlawlectures.com/uol-llb-pass-rates-and-average-marks-october-2018-hong-kong-china/[/url]

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[quote]原帖由 [i]明日長長回覆[/i] 於 2020-6-29 02:52 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520869497&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

If you want to secure a PCLL place, studying UOL is much more challenging than MMU or the other GDL’s providers. the major reason is that it’s not easy to get a good grades for three subj ... [/quote]


Hi, are you UOL graudate?

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-29 09:39 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520875482&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



Hi, are you UOL graudate? [/quote]
Yes I am.

I think that you're not ready for attempting an LLB yet. You should try introductory law courses like Cert/Dip in Legal Studies to see if you're really interested in law/you can cope with law. Coz LLB is demanding and somewhat frustrating.

Honestly, I think if you want to just do it for interest, it's totally fine. Just take it easy and do it bit by bit.

But if you are wanting to switch career, my advice is don't bother. I am in similar situation, early 30s and did law in a JD program. I did pretty well in my studies (~3.7 GPA). But what I realised is the legal industry in HK is extremely discriminatory towards older candidates. Younger students with poorer GPA than me got TCs easily, but I have yet to secure one.

So do it if you really have interest in it, just don't make a career switch.

May you share experience to study contract law and criminal law?

Are you asking me?

Some personal observations from my experience:
(1) Start studying from Day 1, don't leave it till just before exams
(2) Try to map out the major concepts you will explore in that week, and do the readings assigned faithfully
(3) Once you've done the readings and attended the lecture, try to put what you know in a simple mindmap. As you do further reading, flesh out the mindmap with cases as well as sub-concepts.
(4) During exam period, all you have to do is read through the mindmaps and do past-year papers. You can listen back to the recorded lectures if you have points you are unsure of.

That was basically my study process during my JD.

me 35+ , studying UOL LLB 2nd year


都係為興趣, 讀SPEED, 好ENJOY, 覺得好好玩, 不過係辛苦的


自己睇書去FEEL 下, 我個人覺得無用, 因為唔會睇得好明個重點係邊。 上1 堂SPEED 好過你睇勁耐, 上完堂你會知重點係乜,  書都可以唔洗睇

[quote]原帖由 [i]Ph3n0m[/i] 於 2020-6-29 03:26 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520888135&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Are you asking me?

Some personal observations from my experience:
(1) Start studying from Day 1, don't leave it till just before exams
(2) Try to map out the major concepts you will explore in th ... [/quote]


Will the UOL provide me the textbook ?If not, the study guide is enough for the module study ?

[quote]原帖由 [i]ac_cml[/i] 於 2020-6-29 03:36 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520888614&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
me 35+ , studying UOL LLB 2nd year


都係為興趣, 讀SPEED, 好ENJOY, 覺得好好玩, 不過係辛苦的


自己睇書去FEEL 下, 我個人覺得無用, 因為唔會睇得好明個重點係邊。 上1 堂SPEED 好過你睇勁耐, 上完堂你會知重點係乜,  書都可以唔洗睇 ... [/quote]


I think SPEED no longer provide UOL LLB course

[quote]原帖由 [i]cwk2003[/i] 於 2020-6-29 03:48 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520889328&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



I think SPEED no longer provide UOL LLB course [/quote]

why ? 因為疫情嗎? 我今年仲讀緊喎

[quote]原帖由 [i]ac_cml[/i] 於 2020-6-29 04:30 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520891159&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


why ? 因為疫情嗎? 我今年仲讀緊喎 [/quote]


It hasn't update the programme prospectus

[quote]原帖由 [i]TM3[/i] 於 2020-6-28 12:21 PM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=520831711&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
本人已經3x歲。考AL時其實都想入法律，不過不夠分，入了其他major。University of Law，BPP，LondonU ，HKUSpace有開法律課程 我keep住都有興趣。可惜，廿幾歲時 等下等下 都無take action。而家對依件事又重新考慮多次，希望大家可俾d意見:
1. 現時工作與law無關，(亦與大學修的major無關)。不打算轉legal field。讀law對升職幫 ... [/quote]

No offence but⋯其實⋯有矛盾⋯有猶豫⋯即係冇決心⋯即係你鐘意呢科極有限，咁不如算吧啦⋯

想問如果想報PCLL, UOL 既 elective course 要揀邊幾科呀？

[quote]原帖由 [i]travel_hk[/i] 於 2020-7-6 12:13 AM 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=521213589&ptid=29178340][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

想問如果想報PCLL, UOL 既 elective course 要揀邊幾科呀？ [/quote]

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