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[size=3]點知係Twitter做野一樣要狂OT[/size]

[size=3]做到零晨1:30am都冇怨言否則就走[/size]

[size=3]來緊世界盃⚽️，Donald Trump account重開，預咗工作量有增無減[/size]
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[[i] 本帖最後由 急焦長長壽包 於 2022-11-20 11:13 編輯 [/i]]

Twitter 佢幾年前user 同而家差唔多，當時得3700員工，佢根本係請多左人，而家谷大工作量係想你班友自己走，聼講賠得三個月，真係好無良

題外話，長壽包有冇機會入美籍 ?

[quote]原帖由 [i]急焦長長壽包[/i] 於 2022-11-20 11:11 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=553853928&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
點知係Twitter做野一樣要狂OT

做到零晨1:30am都冇怨言否則就走

來緊世界盃⚽️，Donald Trump account重開，預咗工作量有增無減
[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_1e32ca3434054659d397OP3QcYXib9JL.jpg[/img]

[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_4d2cf8e33aa999c62e86MdGCboEzUn0l.jpg[/img] [/quote]
儍仔去老美，更係去加拿大/澳洲。有勞工保障

[quote]原帖由 [i]急焦長長壽包[/i] 於 2022-11-20 11:11 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=553853928&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
點知係Twitter做野一樣要狂OT

做到零晨1:30am都冇怨言否則就走

來緊世界盃⚽️，Donald Trump account重開，預咗工作量有增無減
[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_1e32ca3434054659d397OP3QcYXib9JL.jpg[/img]

[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_4d2cf8e33aa999c62e86MdGCboEzUn0l.jpg[/img] [/quote]
人哋有計人工，OT時薪1.5倍。呢個係法律規定，尤其咁高調，Elon mask 一定俾，否則犯法。

OT唔係問題，問題係俾$。食飯加碟餸都要俾$

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-13 07:12 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554446639&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

人哋有計人工，OT時薪1.5倍。呢個係法律規定，尤其咁高調，Elon mask 一定俾，否則犯法。

OT唔係問題，問題係俾$。食飯加碟餸都要俾$ [/quote]
Engineer係salary based，冇得計OT㗎，計時薪嘅工先有得計OT。contractors就有可能，但炒人contractors最先俾人鋸哂喇。

[[i] 本帖最後由 hamsterman 於 2022-12-13 10:48 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]hamsterman[/i] 於 2022-12-13 08:50 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554447824&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Engineer係salary based，冇得計OT㗎，計時薪嘅工先有得計OT。contractors就有可能，但炒人contractors最先俾人鋸哂喇。 [/quote]
[url]https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime[/url]

The federal overtime provisions are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Unless exempt, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime pay for hours worked over 40 in a workweek at a rate not less than time and one-half their regular rates of pay. 


人吔寫左係憲法到架。當然我講正常受月薪員工。其他contractor 唔知。

我亦假設左Elon mask遵守法律。有守法精神

[quote]原帖由 [i]急焦長長壽包[/i] 於 2022-11-20 11:11 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=553853928&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
點知係Twitter做野一樣要狂OT

做到零晨1:30am都冇怨言否則就走

來緊世界盃⚽️，Donald Trump account重開，預咗工作量有增無減
[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_1e32ca3434054659d397OP3QcYXib9JL.jpg[/img]

[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_4d2cf8e33aa999c62e86MdGCboEzUn0l.jpg[/img] [/quote]
[url]https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime[/url]

The federal overtime provisions are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Unless exempt, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime pay for hours worked over 40 in a workweek at a rate not less than time and one-half their regular rates of pay. 


請留意美國labour law

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-13 15:03 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554456400&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime

The federal overtime provisions are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Unless exempt, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime p ... [/quote]
岩. :smile_34::smile_34:

[quote]原帖由 [i]急焦長長壽包[/i] 於 2022-11-20 11:11 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=553853928&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
點知係Twitter做野一樣要狂OT

做到零晨1:30am都冇怨言否則就走

來緊世界盃⚽️，Donald Trump account重開，預咗工作量有增無減
[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_1e32ca3434054659d397OP3QcYXib9JL.jpg[/img]

[img]https://img.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_221120/20221120_4d2cf8e33aa999c62e86MdGCboEzUn0l.jpg[/img] [/quote]
要wlb 去澳州/歐州啦 :smile_40:

[quote]原帖由 [i]java2[/i] 於 2022-12-13 18:31 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554461103&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

要wlb 去澳州/歐州啦 :smile_40: [/quote]
人吔ot 有1.5倍人工

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-13 13:16 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554454064&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime

The federal overtime provisions are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Unless exempt, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime p ... [/quote]
[url=https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/screen75.asp]https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/screen75.asp[/url]

Computer professionals: Section 13(a)(17) of the FLSA provides that certain computer professionals paid at least $27.63 per hour are exempt from the overtime provisions of the FLSA

另外highly compensated employees都係exempt，sw engineer大部份都係。

我係美國做嘢wage同salary都做過。依賴google唔會知自己查漏嘢
Labor law唔係憲法，唔好撈亂

[[i] 本帖最後由 hamsterman 於 2022-12-13 21:23 編輯 [/i]]

Software engineer 呢行我估全世界都攞吾到OT 錢，最低工資附近先有可能享受到，所以呢，冇可能的:smile_47:

[quote]原帖由 [i]hamsterman[/i] 於 2022-12-13 21:03 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554464416&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/screen75.asp

Computer professionals: Section 13(a)(17) of the FLSA provides that certain computer professionals paid at least $27.63 per hour are exempt fro ... [/quote]
[url]https://www.canada.ca/en/services/jobs/workplace/federal-labour-standards/work-hours.html[/url]

[url]https://www.fairwork.gov.au/pay-and-wages/penalty-rates-allowances-and-other-payments/overtime-pay[/url]

你啱，我google 咗只係general Labour ，冇去到software engineer 咁detail. 今日學嘢，原來美國software engineer 要OT, 

不過我估美國份糧，點都大份過大陸

因為我有朋友係加拿大同澳洲做software engineers,佢一到放工時間，老細催佢走，就係怕俾OT錢。

美國佬

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-14 06:52 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554471538&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/jobs/workplace/federal-labour-standards/work-hours.html

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/pay-and-wages/penalty-rates-allowances-and-other-payments/overtime-pay

你啱， ... [/quote]
我係大學時喺amd做intern，開OT時我個mentor話我份糧可能大過佢，因為我出hourly wage係有OT 1.5x，過好似50小時就2x，佢係計年薪冇OT錢。

[quote]原帖由 [i]hamsterman[/i] 於 2022-12-14 07:33 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554471889&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

我係大學時喺amd做intern，開OT時我個mentor話我份糧可能大過佢，因為我出hourly wage係有OT 1.5x，過好似50小時就2x，佢係計年薪冇OT錢。 [/quote]
我一直以為，美國人有合約精神，即合同寫9:00-6:00，老闆會跟合約做事。當然一次半次，ok 嘅。等於誠哥同我OT到1:00AM, 樂意奉陪。

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-14 08:05 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554472256&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

我一直以為，美國人有合約精神，即合同寫9:00-6:00，老闆會跟合約做事。當然一次半次，ok 嘅。等於誠哥同我OT到1:00AM, 樂意奉陪。 [/quote]
唔同公司唔同職業唔同位唔同待遇。
Tech呢行R&D果邊好多啲work hours都較flexible，做support或要見客嘅就死版啲。衰嘅公司睇死你跳唔到槽嘅咪OT冇錢壓搾你囉，好嘅公司要留人，OT冇錢但review會有bonus或stock派，有時趕完貨有comp time可以失蹤吓或遲到早退。

Elon Musk叫星期六交功課，咩美國🇺🇸憲法嘩？

[quote]原帖由 [i]hamsterman[/i] 於 2022-12-13 21:03 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554464416&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/screen75.asp

Computer professionals: Section 13(a)(17) of the FLSA provides that certain computer professionals paid at least $27.63 per hour are exempt fro ... [/quote]
樓主同空軍三號板友其實都未明乜嘢叫做 exempt，仲以為係 exempt from OT :smile_30:

長壽包唔係住工廈咩？ 乜野係「人去到美國」?


中國人(入)去美國(視像會議)，梗係維持翻 996 啦!  :smile_30:

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-14 08:05 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554472256&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

我一直以為，美國人有合約精神，即合同寫9:00-6:00，老闆會跟合約做事。當然一次半次，ok 嘅。等於誠哥同我OT到1:00AM, 樂意奉陪。 [/quote]
Full time IT 工 標明contract返9至6 鐘數，係月球上先可能發生,你究竟做邊行？

[[i] 本帖最後由 form5 於 2022-12-14 23:40 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]form5[/i] 於 2022-12-14 23:36 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554493168&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Full time IT 工 標明contract返9至6 鐘數，係月球上先可能發生,你究竟做邊行？ [/quote]
係9-5

[quote]原帖由 [i]form5[/i] 於 2022-12-14 23:36 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554493168&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

Full time IT 工 標明contract返9至6 鐘數，係月球上先可能發生,你究竟做邊行？ [/quote]
加拿大一定係9:00-6:00，我朋友係個度，因為法律規定最高工時。
香港就正苦工。IT 5:30 走人。
美國我冇朋友個度，唔敢comment.

呢度咁多T contract, 你咪開個新post 問吓P/T contract 是否需要瘋狂OT

[quote]原帖由 [i]PacificIslander[/i] 於 2022-12-14 19:20 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554486890&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

樓主同空軍三號板友其實都未明乜嘢叫做 exempt，仲以為係 exempt from OT :smile_30: [/quote]
鬼佬好著重family life.

[quote]原帖由 [i]PacificIslander[/i] 於 2022-12-14 19:20 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554486890&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

樓主同空軍三號板友其實都未明乜嘢叫做 exempt，仲以為係 exempt from OT :smile_30: [/quote]
所以咪20萬人走離香港，勞工短缺囉。犯法（違犯合同）當合法。
講到咁理所當然，咪寫入合同，朝9晚9。

敢做又唔敢寫，咪捉字窒，走法律罅。  

[quote]原帖由 [i]PacificIslander[/i] 於 2022-12-14 19:20 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554486890&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

樓主同空軍三號板友其實都未明乜嘢叫做 exempt，仲以為係 exempt from OT :smile_30: [/quote]
條友九五搭八，contract 等於合約工，自己零IT工作經驗值, 吾通做地產？

[quote]原帖由 [i]form5[/i] 於 2022-12-15 07:31 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554496651&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

條友九五搭八，contract 等於合約工，自己零IT工作經驗值, 吾通做地產？ [/quote]
早晨啊，放假上下來香討。


Google 揾到就當識，唔係淨係 IT 呢行啦。


話時話最近成功將一位同事轉咗 contract,  無裁員壓力，同事又唔使返灣仔碼頭，FT WFH，正架。

[quote]原帖由 [i]airforce3[/i] 於 2022-12-15 06:56 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554496386&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

所以咪20萬人走離香港，勞工短缺囉。犯法（違犯合同）當合法。
講到咁理所當然，咪寫入合同，朝9晚9。

敢做又唔敢寫，咪捉字窒，走法律罅。   [/quote]
叫樓主介紹你去美國 (開會)....

[quote]原帖由 [i]PacificIslander[/i] 於 2022-12-15 07:43 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554496778&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

叫樓主介紹你去美國 (開會).... [/quote]
點解去老美？Elon 賺幾多$，佢鐘意咪同員工一年365 日瘋狂OT.

朋友加拿大，朝9晚5，陪子女成長，一樣有樓有車。不過可能冇Tesla揸咁解

[quote]原帖由 [i]PacificIslander[/i] 於 2022-12-15 07:36 發表 [url=https://www.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=554496691&ptid=30867743][img]https://www.discuss.com.hk/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

早晨啊，放假上下來香討。


Google 揾到就當識，唔係淨係 IT 呢行啦。


話時話最近成功將一位同事轉咗 contract,  無裁員壓力，同事又唔使返灣仔碼頭，FT WFH，正架。 [/quote]
:smile_o12:, 可能最壞時間己過