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浙大博士失聯——讀博的壓力到底有多大

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又一名學生失聯了,還是一位博士。嚇得小編我趕緊聯繫我正在讀化學博士的朋友。人們都說世界上有三種人,男人,女人和女博士。時代發展到現在博士已經成為一個獨立的存在了,已經不分男博士和女博士了。
物慾橫流的世界,科研已經找不到淨土了。人人都功利的年代,專心讀書的人來在當下面對的壓力可想而知。
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我碩士畢業的時候,教授力荐我讀博,許諾給充足的獎學金讓我專心做研究。我婉言拒絕了。因為當我碩士論文答辯結束的那刻起我就決定不再碰論文。我想起自己做論文的這兩年,陪伴我的是一杯杯咖啡,是一貼貼肩周炎膏藥。熬了無數個夜,我甚至給自己​​買了防猝死保險,就怕自己突然倒在無人的研究室。
——來自社科類專業的碩士研究生
為了發表SCI論文,焦慮的我整夜整夜不能安睡。就像鄭智化《水手》裡面說的:總是靠一點酒精的麻醉才能夠睡去。論文做不出來的時候,害怕見到教授,因為不知道怎麼開口說我論文沒進度。我甚至一個星期能夢見教授兩三次。恐懼,孤獨,焦慮讓我在博二的時候開始掉頭髮,然而我是個女生。
——來自物理學的博士
能順利發表一篇SCI,那種欣喜堪比《范進中舉》。——來自化工學博士
錢嘛,要慢慢掙
論文嘛,要一點點看,慢慢寫
啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊。。。。。。。。。。。。
老師又來催論文了
啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
——來自材料學的博士
你既不是你父母的續集,也不是子女的前傳,更不是朋友的番外,你要搞清楚自己人生的劇本,對待生命你不妨大膽和冒險一些。
世人皆苦,希望善待生命,善待自己!

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"論文做不出來的時候,害怕見到教授,因為不知道怎麼開口說我論文沒進度"

People like that should not be doing a PhD in the first place. 

All these posts read like doing a PhD is exchanging grueling hard work for a degree. If you think like that, stay away from research.

I remember my days as a grad student. I was always eager to go talk to my professors to show them new things, new ideas .. some-times even just chatting about intellectual stuff. 

And the work is always fun. Don't get me wrong, work is still hard, and take time & energy. But the process, the thinking, the idea generations .. can be very enjoyable. It is a big rush whenever I have a eureka moment that something clicks (solve a math problem, the data analysis comes out interesting .. whatever) and i cannot wait to tell someone.

Now i can see that applies to some of my students too. The good ones are dying to get a meeting with their supervising professors every week. 

Again, doing a PhD is a very polarizing experience. If you are not having fun, and motivated to do more, stay away. And people who mistakenly get into it, should feel no shame of getting out, without wasting their, and faculty time. 



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原帖由 narius 於 2019-1-7 12:37 AM 發表

"論文做不出來的時候,害怕見到教授,因為不知道怎麼開口說我論文沒進度"

People like that should not be doing a PhD in the first place.

All these posts read like doing a PhD is exchanging grueling hard work for a degree. If y ...
國情唔同, 而家大陸大企業好多時都睇學歷, 某國企石油公司今年招重要職位既畢業生, 全部
都係北大清華碩士以上以及外國一流大學畢業生. 好多學生讀碩博跟興趣無關,主要係想搵份好工.
以前國內博士要求不高,好多都係求其畢業, 而家好多重點大學要求起碼2篇SCI,所以佢地壓力好大.

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原帖由 加藤玲奈子 於 2019-1-8 09:39 AM 發表


好多學生讀碩博跟興趣無關,主要係想搵份好工.
That, again, is stupid. A job is not 好 if it requires unreasonable hurdles, that has nothing to do with job skills, to jump through. I suppose if a person can't see that doing a PhD is about research passion, he deserves whatever happens down the line.



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原帖由 narius 於 2019-1-7 12:37 AM 發表

"論文做不出來的時候,害怕見到教授,因為不知道怎麼開口說我論文沒進度"

People like that should not be doing a PhD in the first place. 

All these posts read like doing a PhD is exchanging grueling hard work for a degree. If you th ...
" If you are not having fun, AND motivated to do more, stay away"
what does that mean? Shouldn't it be OR?



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原帖由 RogerVsPete 於 2019-1-9 12:40 AM 發表



" If you are not having fun, AND motivated to do more, stay away"
what does that mean? Shouldn't it be OR?
It means what it says. People need to have fun doing research *and* that they are motivated. Just having fun is not enough. You also need a drive to achieve.



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原帖由 narius 於 2019-1-9 12:50 AM 發表



It means what it says. People need to have fun doing research *and* that they are motivated. Just having fun is not enough. You also need a drive to achieve.
I'm not convinced by your argument, and feel obliged to show you why that comma makes your sentence problematic.



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原帖由 narius 於 2019-1-7 12:37 AM 發表

"論文做不出來的時候,害怕見到教授,因為不知道怎麼開口說我論文沒進度"

People like that should not be doing a PhD in the first place. 

All these posts read like doing a PhD is exchanging grueling hard work for a degree. If you th ...
You must be very lucky that you had a great time in grad school. I was one why cannot stand the pressure from my professor and dropped out. All she wants was a free lab tech who do all the lab works for her. Intellectual conversation?? It was all about when will I be able to provi



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原帖由 sumtopia 於 2019-1-10 02:47 AM 發表



You must be very lucky that you had a great time in grad school. I was one why cannot stand the pressure from my professor and dropped out. All she wants was a free lab tech who do all the lab wor ...
It is field dependent. I believe it is worse (i.e. grad student has lab technicians) in engineering and some areas of physical science. It is a lot better in economics and business schools. All my PhD students are junior partners of research. Sure, they have to work hard, but I do not treat them as labor. I show them how to think about research issues, and they have as much input as they want. That is not to say there is no or low pressure. They still have to produce, but their work is theirs .. and they get first authorship in all their dissertation related research.

So i will also add a point ... pressure and fun are NOT mutually exclusive. You can have intellectual fun, while under the pressure to produce. All tenured/tenure-track faculty in research school operates under that (well, more so for tenure-track, of course).

And it is not just me. Most students I know and I have worked with are treated like that.

I do have a counter example though. My son was in a experimental neutrino research group for a while and he was treated as a technician (though he was just an undergrad).



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原帖由 加藤玲奈子 於 2019-1-6 06:31 AM 發表

又一名學生失聯了,還是一位博士。嚇得小編我趕緊聯繫我正在讀化學博士的朋友。人們都說世界上有三種人,男人,女人和女博士。時代發展到現在博士已經成為一個獨立的存在了,已經不分男博士和女博士了。
物慾橫流的世界,科研已經找不到淨土了。人人都功利的年代,專心讀書的人來在當下面對的壓力可想而知。
看看各位網友怎麼說
我碩士畢業的時候,教授力荐我讀博,許諾給充足的獎學金讓我專心做研究。我婉言拒絕了。因為 ...
ching系邊一個專業的? 博士生時間一樣可以好彈性嗰窩,甘壓逼?



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