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原帖由 aldred 於 2009-3-23 03:02 PM 發表

聽起來很悲哀, 但小弟都經歷過講乜都比人笑, 做乜都比人話幼稚, 什至人生攻擊.

小弟一路都無放棄, 哩廿多年黎轉過幾間教會, 終於發現一個唔係好想承認既導理.

當你有利用價值既時候, 佢地就當你係寶, 唔係既話 ...
教會入面都係人, 有人既地方就有問題.--This is true, but I disagree with your other opinion about 利用價值.  At least this is not what I have seen in the churches I have been to.



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原帖由 kittykatkat 於 2009-3-24 00:45 發表



教會入面都係人, 有人既地方就有問題.--This is true, but I disagree with your other opinion about 利用價值.  At least this is not what I have seen in the churches I have been to.
咁有兩個可能性:

1, 神十分關照妳, 另妳所去既教會, 都無咁既問題.

2, 閣下睇唔出教會入面係有哩D問題, 哩D問題係發生響大多數教會.

有人事有錢有面既待遇自然會好, 事奉既時候人地都會覺得你係有心.  無錢無面無人事既, 你想去做都要話你唔知有乜居心.

哩D係小弟返教會廿多年既親身經歷, 小弟既太太同樣有同感.  我無同佢講過教會係咁, 但係佢出期地同我講哩D野, 即係最少唔止我一個係咁既感覺.  而且哩D唔係少數教會入面有, 而係大多數既教會都有.

所以, 只要有人既地方, 就會有人衡量你既價值.  當然唔會個個都係咁, 但係大多數都係咁.  KITTYKATKAT妳可以唔認同, 小弟亦無改變你想法既意圖, 只係響度借機呻兩句.  同埋想鼓勵樓主唔好放棄.



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原帖由 aldred 於 2009-3-24 03:45 PM 發表

咁有兩個可能性:

1, 神十分關照妳, 另妳所去既教會, 都無咁既問題.

2, 閣下睇唔出教會入面係有哩D問題, 哩D問題係發生響大多數教會.

有人事有錢有面既待遇自然會好, 事奉既時候人地都會覺得你係有心.  無錢無面無人事既, 你想去做都要話你唔知有乜居心.

哩D係小弟返教會廿多年既親身經歷, 小弟既太太同樣有同感.  我無同佢講過教會係咁, 但係佢出期地同我講哩D野, 即係最少唔止我一個係咁既感覺.  而且哩D唔係少數教會入面有, 而係大多數既教會都有.

所以, 只要有人既地方, 就會有人衡量你既價值.  當然唔會個個都係咁, 但係大多數都係咁.  KITTYKATKAT妳可以唔認同, 小弟亦無改變你想法既意圖, 只係響度借機呻兩句.  同埋想鼓勵樓主唔好放棄.
I really don't have any idea which church you went to for the last 20 or so years!!!
Most of the people went to church just, TAKE TAKE TAKE!
Most of the church I went to hardly find enough people to do God's work! Rejecting people?? You got to be kidding!!



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原帖由 bigmama 於 2009-3-24 09:16 PM 發表

I really don't have any idea which church you went to for the last 20 or so years!!!
Most of the people went to church just, TAKE TAKE TAKE!
Most of the church I went to hardly find enough peo ...
可能我返中型教會, 唔係好覺信徒只係為出席而出席,
或者大教會就經常出現以上現象掛
不過排擠其他人絕非耶穌基督的教導, 他要求信徒要彼此相愛



六國破滅,非兵不利,戰不善,弊在賂秦。賂秦而力虧,破滅之道也...
--> (六國)咁膚淺既?
--> 我(秦始皇)既意見代表秦國人整體意見!
That's why it is better to go to big churches.. you can just disappear in the crowd


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原帖由 bigmama 於 2009-3-24 09:47 PM 發表

That's why it is better to go to big churches.. you can just disappear in the crowd
有D大教會(e.g.係西鐵沿線勁賣廣告果間)唔畀你唔出席,
唔出席都得, 不過個個禮拜都有人打電話問候(唔好心邪)



六國破滅,非兵不利,戰不善,弊在賂秦。賂秦而力虧,破滅之道也...
--> (六國)咁膚淺既?
--> 我(秦始皇)既意見代表秦國人整體意見!
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原帖由 自由騎士 於 2009-3-24 10:00 PM 發表


有D大教會(e.g.係西鐵沿線勁賣廣告果間)唔畀你唔出席,
唔出席都得, 不過個個禮拜都有人打電話問候(唔好心邪)
REALLY??  What church is that?? I never take 西鐵.



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原帖由 bigmama 於 2009-3-24 21:16 發表



I really don't have any idea which church you went to for the last 20 or so years!!!
Most of the people went to church just, TAKE TAKE TAKE!
Most of the church I went to hardly find enough peo ...
Then, you are so lucky.  The case was that just that, they even blocked us in joining small group.  When I pointed out something, they just thought I was trying to screw them.  After a couple years, a well known pastor went there and said the same thing as what I said to them.  Well!  What do you think about my feeling?



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原帖由 bigmama 於 2009-3-24 10:08 PM 發表

REALLY??  What church is that?? I never take 西鐵.
神X會錦X堂



六國破滅,非兵不利,戰不善,弊在賂秦。賂秦而力虧,破滅之道也...
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--> 我(秦始皇)既意見代表秦國人整體意見!
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原帖由 aldred 於 2009-3-24 11:56 PM 發表



Then, you are so lucky.  The case was that just that, they even blocked us in joining small group.  When I pointed out something, they just thought I was trying to screw them.  After a couple year ...
I dont know you personally, so I guess I won't comment on your case. Maybe you are just too agressive. You need to take it a bit easy in the church. They need to observe you for a while before letting you to handle so "jobs". Also if you have violated some of the "rules" previously (Like if you have bad reputation outside church, homosexual, frequent liar, previous drug addicts, previous criminal... ) It takes even longer for them to observe you.



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原帖由 嫌棄我嗎 於 2009-3-20 07:35 PM 發表

我講咩都比人笑。我唔知同佢地講咩好。我呢D笨人應該離開教會。
其實我想知你講左d咩而比人笑? 可以講少少嗎?



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原帖由 嫌棄我嗎 於 2009-3-25 11:54 AM 發表

係我將自己的瘀事同人講,講得太多,別人誤會我係玩得之人,那一刻我覺得無人明白我。
咁你講出黎既目的係咩? 同埋你係公開同兩個或以上既人講, 定係私底下同一個人講? 同埋係咩瘀事? 詳細些可以嗎?



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原帖由 bigmama 於 2009-3-25 11:08 發表



I dont know you personally, so I guess I won't comment on your case. Maybe you are just too agressive. You need to take it a bit easy in the church. They need to observe you for a while before let ...
Frankly speaking I did not commit any of the things you mentioned.  Even though they think that my wife, or I were not the suitable person for the tasks, should we be informed about that and tell us the reasons?  They have never done that.  They just kept ignoring us.  I doubt if they have done any evaluations.  We have been staying in that church for around two years.  They banned us in joinning the small group because I object in signning the so called "contract".  I have pointed out that and they refused to bring the issue to the upper management of the church.  Well fine.  We stay out the small group and continue in joining the worships.  After around a year, a so called "famous" priest said exactly what I told them and then they agreed to take that "contract" policy away.  Then, I found out that there is no more reasons for me to stay in there and left.

That church is not in Hong Kong, but I heard that the so called "contract" policy starts appearing in many churches in Hong Kong recently.



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